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Post by mr. excellent on Aug 22, 2015 14:08:52 GMT -5
Most of Spidey's villains have cool powers, but uninspiring motives. I mean, Electro, Rhino, Sandman (his daughter makes for some story possibilities though), etc. You really have to go outside the box to do something special with them, like when they did that "Flowers for Rhino" one off.
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Post by BackinBlack on Aug 22, 2015 17:41:30 GMT -5
The two were kind of a team in the 90's series. Well technically Scorpion kidnapped him and chained him up in his apartment, but details. If I had to pick though, Vulture as primary, Scorpion as secondary. Given Toomes has bad blood with Osborn, it would be a good way to build up Osborn for the future while giving Toomes a motivation and a little sympathy. But yeah, with Spidey villains, especially using one we haven't seen in film yet, could have interesting stories, but would it be enough to fill a whole movie? I mean, Sandman kind of worked with his daughter being sick as motivation, but they didn't really need to make him Uncle Ben's killer. Since I posted that cast list though, it's been debunked. The last rumor I read was that it would be Kraven, kind of going back to what Sony would have done had they decided to reboot on their own again. If true, hopefully they don't base it on Kraven's Last Hunt, because it just would not work with a teenage Spidey. Personally, I'd still go with Mysterio, with a Kingpin cameo, and maybe one more small-level villain like Shocker.
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Post by mr. excellent on Aug 22, 2015 17:49:43 GMT -5
I'd be down with that. Rumor has it Spider-man may be fighting the big bad in Civil War himself, as well as Captain America. I'm not sure why Civil War needs a big bad, the story should focus on the heroes fighting each other. They don't need a common evil to unite against at the end of the movie, their own casualties should be enough to stop at some point during the movie, grudgingly work out some new agreements to prevent further bloodshed, and move forward. Anyway, that same rumor that has Spidey fighting the main villain in Civil War also says it makes Spider-man look like a giant dork. If that's the case, I'd like the villain in his own movie to have some gravitas. A Kingpin cameo would be nice.
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Post by BackinBlack on Aug 22, 2015 19:41:43 GMT -5
Well I hope he doesn't come off as too much of a dork, even if he is out of his element with the big time heroes. He needs to have a big enough impact that shows not only his future potential, but also make people want to see his solo movie in 2017.
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Post by mr. excellent on Aug 22, 2015 20:08:00 GMT -5
Me too. That's why I'm hoping that his own villain is worth his salt. A heroes villain is a reflection on him after all. With regard to recent rumors, the latest set picks have people speculating about Iron Man having the bleeding edge suit. That would be cool, except I think it's too far out there. I'd rather they give him a proper Extremis suit. The comic version is still more powerful than any suit he's had in the movies. Let's not have them water down one of the coolest suits he's ever had.
One thing I think the MCU has dropped the ball on is how cool it is to see Iron Man upgrade. In the first 2 movies, him getting a new suit was a big deal. As the movies went on, his new suits seem to be less durable and less differentiated. They're more like different skins in a video game that don't really offer anything new. Like his Age of Ultron suits. Those looked incredible, but what was so special about them (aside from Hulkbuster)?
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Post by mr. excellent on Aug 23, 2015 13:51:27 GMT -5
Whoops. I thought I posted this in the Civil War thread, because I had started the Spidey conversation there.
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Post by Webber3000 on Aug 24, 2015 14:14:40 GMT -5
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!? This forum is confusing enough as it is. It's impossible to stay up to date with that much activity if you start posting in the wrong threads!
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Post by mr. excellent on Aug 24, 2015 19:53:13 GMT -5
yessir!
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Post by mr. excellent on Nov 1, 2015 13:27:40 GMT -5
Why Spider-man Should Get his Own Netflix Show Before Joining the MCU screenrant.com/spider-man-marvel-reboot-netflix-show/I'm going to toot my own horn a little, even though I deserve no credit for the idea. Remember when I was fantasizing about my "Day in the Life" idea, and Sony doing a low budget Netflix Spider-man "movie"? BIB said it would work better as a Marvel One-Shot and the conversation took place briefly in the Civil War thread not trying to say "I told you so", since this is just one publication doing a fluff piece.* I just included that for context to jog everyone's memory. Anyway, that conversation happened before Netflix's Daredevil came out. Now that the model is out there, I'm foolishly hoping Marvel will consider it. This article makes a pretty good case for it to happen too. Though I have no doubt this is absolutely NOT going to happen, I'd like to know everyone/anyone's thoughts on this. IMO, Spider-man sort of belongs with Daredevil and Luke Cage before meeting up with the big guns. Similar to how he was used in the comic version of Civil War, I think the analog role for the character in the MCU would be to bridge the Netflix material with the movies. People want to see Matt Murdock be the guy to cross over, but now that Sony and Marvel are playing "nicer", to me the character to bring the two incarnations closer is Spider-man. He has super powers, rich characterization to pull from, and he's the most famous of all Marvel's characters. *Besides, as soon as Daredevil worked, I think just about everyone wanted their favorite Marvel character to get a Netflix deal.
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Post by BackinBlack on Jan 20, 2016 18:30:08 GMT -5
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Post by mr. excellent on Jan 20, 2016 18:46:40 GMT -5
Sony's Spider-Man reboot pushed up to July 7th (former release date July 28th) www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=130205For the life of me, I can't figure out why they'd do this. Their prior release date had them out the week after Chris Nolan's next movie as well as Valerian and the City of One Thousand Planets (a Luc Besson film). Nolan is still a draw, but he has cooled down some. Now, they're coming out right in the thick of Wonder Woman, Despicable Me 3, Uncharted, and War of the Planet of the Apes. What the hell? Confident or not, they would've had less competition in their original date dammit. Okay, so not really worth getting super heated over. Just putting it out there.
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Post by brotherandbassist on Feb 2, 2016 17:27:14 GMT -5
Maybe competition is the whole point. Putting it out at the same time as other movies could show the company how Spider-Man's popularity compares to other films in the market. Not only that, but the more time they take on the film, the better. Star Wars 8 has also been pushed back, which(to me) shows they wanna take as much time as they can on these movies to make them as excellent as they can be. I don't want them to rush anything
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Post by mr. excellent on Mar 4, 2016 20:44:20 GMT -5
Word is that Sony's Venom movie is back on, but won't be related to the Tom Holland rebooted Spider-man www.comicbookmovie.com/venom/venom-movie-back-on-at-sony-will-be-unrelated-to-marvels-new-spider-man-a131713Please God, let this be an unfounded rumor. The article at CBM and at Screenrant read as though this isn't a rumor. Seriously though, what the hell is this s###? The whole point in letting Spider-man play in the MCU's sandbox and vice versa was to get people hyped for the character again and also to let Marvel Studios play with Spider-man's coolest villains. The deal isn't going to mean squat for Sony if their spinoffs are inconsequential and not affiliated with the freaking character they're based around.
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Post by BackinBlack on Mar 5, 2016 12:54:45 GMT -5
I'll believe it when I see it. But if it's not connected to the MCU, then I'm not interested.
I don't know why Sony has a hard time understanding this: YOU CAN'T DO A VENOM SOLO MOVIE WITHOUT ESTABLISHING A HISTORY WITH SPIDER-MAN. Even if Spider-Man is in it and it's not Tom Holland, then we'll be seeing a Spider-Man we know nothing or care about. And even if they don't have Spider-Man involved at all, then it's not even Venom. God, it's Fant4stic all over again.
We don't need a Venom movie, at least not now. You know how I'd do it? * Introduce the symbiote in Infinity War, either being aboard the Guardians' or Thanos' ship and getting off on Earth. * Peter gets the symbiote and black suit in Spider-Man 2. * The symbiote bonds with Eddie and they become Venom as the main villain of Spider-Man 3. * THEN Venom gets his own movie.
Would it take awhile? Yes, but it would be done naturally and properly.
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Post by Webber3000 on Mar 7, 2016 18:54:21 GMT -5
I really hope these rumours stay rumours. I know Sony doesn't have the best history with their decisions, but come on, with that much money and resources, they must've hired at least a couple competent people with influence, right?... guys?
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