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Post by mr. excellent on Dec 7, 2018 17:15:44 GMT -5
Turns out we had the title figured out already. I loved the trailer. It had a Gravity feel to it, gotta love it.
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Post by mr. excellent on Dec 8, 2018 13:58:55 GMT -5
Avengers Endgame Officially the Most Viewed Trailer Ever (in 24 hours) www.comicbookmovie.com/avengers/avengers_endgame/avengers-endgame-trailer-is-officially-the-most-viewed-trailer-of-all-time-after-just-24-hours-a165197So 289 million views? Wow. That's nuts. Here's a crazy anecdote though. When I was an adolescent kid back in the early 2000s, my friends and I would get super hyped over trailers and talk about them. Pretty much what we did over at the Sony boards, except I was probably the most rabid among them when it came to movie trailers. The only place I could go to find people just as rabid as I was, were movie forums. Yesterday, school started with a Spirit Assembly. As I walked toward the gym at 7:55 I asked a student if he had seen the trailer yet. He said he watched it before he even got out of bed on his phone. I then asked another student after the assembly if they had seen it, and got the same response. I showed the trailer to my 1st period class, and at least 8 of them had already seen it. Throughout the day I showed the trailer to start class off. I came up with some stuff about how we're in the endgame now, we need to finish the semester strong and what not. To my surprise, I am pleased to announce that they enjoyed the tie in. In all my classes though, several if not all of the students had seen the trailer earlier in the day. This was in part because some of their other teachers decided to show it, but they were all hyped. What a freakin day and age we are living in. I mean, when I was a kid in 2002 Sam Raimi's Spider-Man came out and everyone loved it, but they weren't all rushing to see the trailer within the first 24 hours. Crazy how mass access to the internet, social media and trending have connected us. Sure, we can be pretty damn divided, but in terms of nerd culture it's like we're less afraid to let our geek flags fly. Rest in Peace Stan Lee, I hope you're proud of the work you and Jack and Steve and the whole gang did.
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Post by mr. excellent on Mar 15, 2019 13:53:32 GMT -5
Avengers Endgame Official Trailer
How has this not been posted yet?? Oh yeah, there's only 5 of us. No matter! What do you all think? Will there be one more trailer with a few big money shots? If there is to be one more trailer, will it end with the all powerful words "Tickets Available Today"?
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Post by mr. excellent on Mar 18, 2019 14:12:05 GMT -5
So, today is the first official day of Spring Break at the school district I'm teaching at. It's nice to be able to catch up on some things. As an adult, you always have something to catch up on I suppose, but to get the opportunity to do it on your own time is a great reprieve. While killing time today, I stumbled across those old Bat in the Sun battle videos where they'd make super powered people fight to see who would win. I ended up checking out Thor vs. Superman, and it reminded me of how everyone used to complain about Thor not wearing his helmet. The good old days, haha. Truth be told, I thought it would've been nice to give him a helmet for more than just one scene at a time, but I understand why he doesn't need one necessarily. That said, it'd be great to give him a helmet for Endgame. Just the extra, extra icing on the cake as it were. Maybe they will, why not? We shall see.
Also, I was thinking about ways the movie could end the franchise's 22 movie Infinity Saga (as Feige recently dubbed it), and I had this question: What would be the most emotionally overwhelming but still appropriate ending for you guys? For me, it all boils down to that Peggy Carter quote from the second trailer about starting over.
What if they somehow defeated Thanos in a way that allowed Cap to go back and spend the rest of his life with Peggy? I know she married and had kids and it wouldn't be Caps MO to just erase that for his own personal gain, but if their plan somehow necessitated he go back to the past and stay there to make sure the future played out in a certain way, it could end up making sense. After all, the alternative is half of the universe's population going *poof*. For the rest of the characters, starting over wouldn't be necessary.
For Tony, I'd be fine if he were to survive. They're setting up a wedding in the finale, and maybe it would add to the drama for him to die before that happens but... there's supposedly a scene where everyone is on screen at the same time. You guys remember those interviews where the cast was talking about that? I kind of think that's going to be a Stark / Potts wedding scene, so maybe they low key let the cat out of the bag on that one. We'll see. For Thor, it would be him recreating Asgard, talking to his lost loved ones in that place beyond like in Thor Ragnarok. For Hulk,... I don't know. Him becoming professor Hulk is closure enough for me. I'm bummed that he and Betty never worked out, but they let that narrative go so long ago it wouldn't really have a payoff for them to reunite. Natasha is getting her own film, probably a prequel, but I don't know that she needs closure really. For someone who is supposed to be fighting for redemption of her past, she seems very sound ethically, she's incredibly loyal, and when she plays the field it's always for the greater good like in Civil War. See Maria Hill is already like 2nd in command of SHIELD, maybe Natasha becomes the new head of The Avengers. I could see her and Carol Danvers sharing Leadership duties, especially since Spider-Man is still a kid and T'Challa has Wakanda to focus on.
I don't know what I'd want for Hawkeye as a swan song. One of the complaints these movies get is that we don't really get to see enough of the world reacting to these crazy phenomena and super powered beings, etc. Even as recently as Captain Marvel, the aliens hardly garnered a reaction out of Fury, Maria Rambeau, her daughter Monica, Coulson, etc. So maybe Endgame begins with short film style narrative that paints a complete picture of civilian life in the MCU in just a few minutes... and they do this via Hawkeye's time with family on his farm. The movie would really have to endear you to them because the only time Hawkeye has ever received any kind of shine was in Age of Ultron and that was so long ago the character still feels squandered. Even in Age of Ultron, they didn't do anything to make his family memorable. So if the movie begins with a powerful, quiet, focused scene on Hawkeye spending time with his family, endears you to them in however many minutes that scene can be, then maybe at the end of the movie, Hawkeye's swan song is reuniting with his family. I don't want him to retire officially, he still hasn't been given his due, and the least they could do is give him what they gave to Widow and have him be a full on costar like she was in Winter Soldier or something.
Wanda and Vision should be reunited, have android babies, why not? That's my reason, "because why not?" Spider-Man doesn't really need closure per se, since his movie is coming out this year too. Hopefully they give him his due. I was really impressed with the emotional arc they gave to Gamora and Thanos. Same thing with Thor and Nivadelir. They took a line of dialogue about his hammer's creation from the first Thor and Thor Ragnarok and just made it work into this beautiful side quest. They've been really good about rewriting their history so that there's new wrinkles, and there's actual impact. I figure they can do that to just about everyone to wrap a nice bow on it.
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Post by BackinBlack on Apr 2, 2019 18:19:00 GMT -5
Guys, if you want to see Endgame opening weekend, you might want to buy your tickets now. Ensure your place in the packed theaters.
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Post by mr. excellent on Apr 2, 2019 21:08:57 GMT -5
Yessir. That's so crazy!
Hey, I just realized... it turns out that the answer to my question (in the post I made on March 15th) was "yes". There was another trailer, and it did end with a message about tickets being available now.
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Post by BackinBlack on Apr 2, 2019 22:53:56 GMT -5
Yep, this one.
Between Rocket and Nebula holding hands over their losses and Tony looking at the picture of him and Peter, I'm betting that 75% of this movie will be all about the feels.
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Post by mr. excellent on Apr 3, 2019 20:23:19 GMT -5
Anthony Russo did an interview recently. I don't know the name of the journalist or the publication, but I saw the video on YouTube this morning I believe. He said they (he and his brother) believe Endgame is their strongest work thus far at Marvel Studios. Crazy, right? I don't feel that Civil War or Infinity War were as tight as Winter Soldier (how could they be?), but in their own right they accomplished some awesome things. Mr. Sunday movies had a guest YouTuber who did an amazing break down on why he believes Civil War is the best superhero film from the MCU. It really made me see the film in a different light, and also gives additional context to some of the things the Russos were saying in interviews in and around the time Civil War came out. So, if they believe Endgame is their best yet, I'm sure we're in for one of the most epic films of all time. Infinity War already accomplished that, but now we're going to get something that's a little more singularly focused, and a lot tighter from the look of things to boot? Shoot**, I don't know if my heart will be able to handle it guys (unintentional bars).
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Post by mr. excellent on Apr 23, 2019 2:08:11 GMT -5
First Reactions via Twitter screenrant.com/avengers-endgame-reactions-reviews/So, I won't give any spoilers away in my discussion below, namely because I haven't spoiled the movie for myself. So, I saw a collider twitter reaction roundup. There were 2 that weren't "hype level 9000". The first one I saw was from Collider's very own Perri Nemiroff. She said the movie is "A LOT, sometimes too much" but she did go on to give the movie high praise. Perri is a true movie buff and I trust her sensibilities even when I'm not fully in agreement. The praise she did give the movie gives me confidence I'll love the film. She was still super hyped from the sound of it, so I guess she doesn't count as a dissenter. The second of the non "hype level 9000" reviews was legitimately tempered compared to literally all of the others besides Perri's. It was from this guy from Forbes, who I also put a lot of stock in. His reaction wasn't negative so much as it was somewhat mixed. He said the narrative doesn't always make sense and that the action is a step down... I don't know that I quoted that right. That said, there were others who said the story was explained with meaningful exposition when it needed to be and was easy enough to keep up with. They also said there were plenty of big, amazing set pieces throughout, so I'm not sure. When Infinity War came out, people said its action was epic but lacked any scenes with the punch of Civil War's airport scene. To that, I wholly disagree because the fight on Titan intercut with the battle of Wakanda is still the most epic thing I've seen in a film since the original LOTR series.
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Post by Webber3000 on Apr 23, 2019 16:00:21 GMT -5
When Infinity War came out, people said its action was epic but lacked any scenes with the punch of Civil War's airport scene. To that, I wholly disagree because the fight on Titan intercut with the battle of Wakanda is still the most epic thing I've seen in a film since the original LOTR series. Interesting thought. Personally, I thought that the fight on Titan was pretty cool, but whenever they cut to Wakanda, I just longed for more engaging action. I mean the real flaw in my view is how little I cared for Vision, and how silly it seemed to risk thousands of Wakandan lives to save Vision's. Foobar! In any case, while I'm glad you enjoyed it, it doesn't even come close to how epic LotR was! That's just insulting. Civil War's airport fight was much stronger, and the final showdown between Iron Man and Cap was something to behold, but still... The MCU does many things right, but to this day, despite their budget and over a decade's worth of CGI improvements, I don't feel any action scene or set piece in the franchise comes close to, say, the train fight in Spider-Man 2. There was something so kinetic and exhilarating about it that I've only seen in non-superhero films since.
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Post by mr. excellent on Apr 23, 2019 21:30:14 GMT -5
Hey now! *said in my best Howard Stern impression* To be fair, their primary goal wasn't to save Vision. They were protecting the stone, but trying to extract it without sacrificing his life unnecessarily. Up until the point when s*** hit the fan, I think the T'Challa and the Wakandan army believed they were going to win. All they'd ever known up until that point was winning.
For me, the quality of the action varies from movie to movie. Winter Soldier and Civil War's hand to hand combat scenes rival just about any outside the MCU, thanks to the scoring the John Wick fight and/or stunt choreographers. Doctor Strange, visually, rivals anything I've seen. Thor Ragnarok's action was freakin awesome, I'd put that up against anything too. Action wise, the Guardian's movies aren't the best (fight choreography, space ship battles), but they are a lot of fun to look at though. That gets something in my book because I can watch other awesome spectacle movies and still think what's on the screen is boring. The others... I guess I can see your point. A lot of MCU movies don't really hit the mark in terms of action (looking at you Captain Marvel and Ant Man), but I do think Infinity War's action is up there though.
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Post by Webber3000 on Apr 26, 2019 7:46:35 GMT -5
You make compelling arguments, and I do agree that there is some really good action to be found in the MCU. It's just that when I think about the best action I've seen in movies in general since 2008, the MCU just doesn't come to mind, besides perhaps the first Avengers' tracking shot which blew me away at the time. To provide some examples off the top of my head: Creed, John Wick, and Rush come to mind as films with some of the most exhilarating, cathartic, and memorable action scenes.
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Post by BackinBlack on Apr 28, 2019 5:29:21 GMT -5
Saw it last night. Wow. Just wow. This really was the culmination of every movie, with callbacks and payoffs to most of them, many characters showing up I was surprised to see, and characters arcs wrapping up or going in new directions for the future. THIS is the movie we've been waiting 11 years to see. I was damn near hyperventilating when everyone started showing up through Strange's portals.
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Post by mr. excellent on Apr 28, 2019 20:54:08 GMT -5
With regard to your spoiler tags, I commented about that scene without actually talking about what happened in it openly in the Rate the Last Movie You Saw thread. It made me emotional, not just because it was "second childhood" wish fulfillment (I mean, I was 19 when the first Iron man came out) but because of the people who I used to have in my life who have recently passed away. I know that that scene was everything we were all waiting for, wanting to see, and would have seen together were they still here with me today. I think, if we talk about non action scenes, my new favorite one from the MCU has to be Tony and Gamora playing that football table top game and spending time on the ship. It was so beautiful and understated. We've never seen Tony be so tender to anyone except Pepper and definitely not in the same way... Later in the film you see that he has a daughter, but this actually happens before that. We'd never seen Gamora be so childlike for that matter, even though you got pieces of it in GOTG vol.2 She was like a little girl getting her first experience with a proper father figure. I think the best piece of acting from RDJ came from that scene when he goes off on Steve back at the compound right after he gets back. It felt so much more real and intense than anything they did in Civil War, which I didn't think was even possible. You sort of leave Age of Ultron with Tony being... not a bad guy, but hard to redeem in a way. So much so that Civil War really had its work cut out for it to make you feel bad for Tony again after the mess he caused... but then in this movie, you're like oh my God he was totally right and Steve was supposed to be there and he wasn't. WOW. JUST WOW.
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Post by mr. excellent on Apr 28, 2019 22:57:37 GMT -5
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