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Post by Caveboy0 on Feb 14, 2011 19:21:42 GMT -5
i was just going to bring up that we don't even know if Batman is still Batman after TDK for all we know he took a break to keep recover from the bullet wound and is sort of debating how to come back exactly.
then this vigilante of sorts pops up (Selina Kyle) and maybe Bruce feels responsible and then suits up again in a sort of if its gonna be done it better be done right. sort of idea.
i would look at the Second part of Knightfall as inspiration for a "Rising" storyline for Batman.
not to mention Nolan definitely look at this comic for how to portray Two-Face. In Knightfall Part 2 it has a flashback story with Two-Face capturing Batman to be judged for his "betrayal" of Harvey.
in the comics it was just Batman feeling like Harvey was going too far. In TDK it was blaming Batman for the death of Rachel.
The comic even had the judgement take place where Two-Face was created. and the two of them falling off the building.
just saying if Nolan used the story (directly or not) before he'll use it again.
its just the whole Selina Kyle thing is curious. becasue will she be catwoman? Is the big question. because Eckhart was casted as Harvey and he only ended up as Two-Face until the end of the film.
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Post by BackinBlack on Feb 14, 2011 20:43:39 GMT -5
i was just going to bring up that we don't even know if Batman is still Batman after TDK for all we know he took a break to keep recover from the bullet wound and is sort of debating how to come back exactly. then this vigilante of sorts pops up (Selina Kyle) and maybe Bruce feels responsible and then suits up again in a sort of if its gonna be done it better be done right. sort of idea. I still don't get where you're coming up with the idea he won't be Batman at the beginning. The end of TDK never gave any indication he would stop for awhile. And he seemed to be okay after Two-Face's gunshot; it probably wasn't even a straight shot. He'll probably be operating in the shadows so he can fight crime and still avoid the cops since he's a wanted man. Maybe the "Rises" part of the film will mean there's a huge threat to Gotham that only he can stop and he'll truly be known as a hero.
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Post by Caveboy0 on Feb 14, 2011 21:04:28 GMT -5
i've heard it before. why is it so impossible?
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Post by BackinBlack on Feb 14, 2011 21:32:15 GMT -5
i've heard it before. why is it so impossible? What reason would Bruce have to just stop? If anything, TDK gave reasons for Bruce to keep going. Alfred told him to endure the madness Joker was causing and Gordon believes that even with the cops hunting him, he can take it.
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Post by Spidey 1923 on Feb 14, 2011 23:03:42 GMT -5
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Post by Caveboy0 on Feb 14, 2011 23:20:40 GMT -5
i've heard it before. why is it so impossible? What reason would Bruce have to just stop? If anything, TDK gave reasons for Bruce to keep going. Alfred told him to endure the madness Joker was causing and Gordon believes that even with the cops hunting him, he can take it. yeah but with the cops taking more direction towards batman it could prove to just be distracting for batman. maybe he was sort of pushed out by the cops. idk its just speculation. limited speculation just sounds stupid. why can't i bring up anything anymore.
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Post by BackinBlack on Feb 14, 2011 23:26:11 GMT -5
What reason would Bruce have to just stop? If anything, TDK gave reasons for Bruce to keep going. Alfred told him to endure the madness Joker was causing and Gordon believes that even with the cops hunting him, he can take it. yeah but with the cops taking more direction towards batman it could prove to just be distracting for batman. maybe he was sort of pushed out by the cops. I said before Batman is able to get his way around the cops and has been shown to in both Begins and TDK. Sticking to the shadows more won't change his tactics; it is his MO.
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Post by Caveboy0 on Feb 15, 2011 1:26:09 GMT -5
the cops were only half heartedly going after batman. it was a secondary priority. now that they are treating him as a villain its their main priority. it is pretty different. all i'm saying is that its a possibility. is it not a possibility? i didn't think so. anyways…. i give you my Bane manip
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Jul 23, 2010 18:08:01 GMT -5
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Post by mob on Feb 15, 2011 9:06:56 GMT -5
bane is the new Robocop?
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Post by Caveboy0 on Feb 15, 2011 9:14:58 GMT -5
yeah just insult my work.
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Post by BackinBlack on Feb 15, 2011 9:43:59 GMT -5
It looks too assassin-y for Bane.
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Post by Caveboy0 on Feb 15, 2011 10:54:09 GMT -5
and what is bane then? he loooks like a fucking mexican wrestler. you can't just put every villain in a nice suit and call it realistic.
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Post by mob on Feb 15, 2011 11:32:02 GMT -5
Bane is a man who wants power. I've read more Batman comics than I have Spider-Man so I have a good background on what the character is like. If anyone wants to start out with a good Bane story, i suggest you read "Knightfall", which is the story when Bane shows his true potential in being a Batman villain. He never really used guns or had any other motive than to destroy Batman so he could become the most powerful man in Gotham. Now he can be portrayed like Hardy in "Bronson", which would be a reasonable approach in terms of physical being. I have no clue how Venom will work, but they'll find a way
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Post by Caveboy0 on Feb 15, 2011 14:53:13 GMT -5
i have been reading knightfall. i did not mean to sound ignorant. i was being more sarcastic and rhetorical.
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Post by BackinBlack on Feb 15, 2011 18:24:30 GMT -5
We may be heading back to Arkham:
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