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Post by mr. excellent on Dec 24, 2016 18:19:57 GMT -5
I never read it, but I remember it garnered some attention for the cancer story (I think that's the one, right?)
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Post by brotherandbassist on Dec 24, 2016 22:19:21 GMT -5
That's exactly it. I've really been wanting to read it. I only ever read issue #1 online. A lot of people have called it the "Dark Knight Returns" of Spider-Man stories
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Post by BackinBlack on Dec 24, 2016 23:10:05 GMT -5
It certainly is Spider-Man's DKR. It gets a lot of flack for the cancer part (still better than a deal with Mephisto), but I found it an emotionally powerful story. If you guys remember the Peter/MJ Appreciation thread from the old board, I talked about some moments from the book involving Peter and MJ that greatly displayed their relationship. I highly recommend it to any Spider-Man fan.
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Post by brotherandbassist on Dec 25, 2016 1:23:56 GMT -5
I remember that thread! I will definitely check it out and when I do, I will tell y'all what I think. Speaking of comics, I recently went through my entire comic collection and tried to find every Spider-Man comic I have and organize them. I didn't manage to get through all of them, but I did manage to organize all of my Ultimate and Amazing Spider-Man comics in chronological order. It brought back a lot of memories of going to the comic book store every Saturday and the guy who ran the register was like family to me and my mom. He would save me a copy of the latest issue. This was back in the days that the "One More Day" storyline had just started. Here is a list of all of the Ultimate and Amazing comics I own.
Ultimate Spider-Man- #1, 21, 28, 30, 31, 33-38, 40, 45, 47, 49, 50, 53, 55, 58, 64-66, 68, 69, 71, 72, 75, 79, 91, 100, 102, 109, 110, 111, 116, 117, 120-126, 128, 130, 150, 160, and Annual #3
Amazing Spider-Man- #121, 122, 129, 169, 185, 200, 267, 290, 296, 297, 301, 313, 314, 328, 332, 335, 341, 368, 369, 373, 375, 376, 392, 406, 407, 409, 420, 469, 488, 492, 500, 511, 521, 527, 540-568, 570, 576, 577, 581, 583, 586, 588, 592, 598, 600, 603, 606, 618-623, 628, 634, 638, 648, Annuals #12, 36, and "Annual 2000", Amazing Spider-Ham #1, Amazing Spider-Monkey #1(variant cover of 1st issue of "Brand New Day", ASM One Shot #1(from Brand New Day era), and ASM Secret Invasion PArt 3 of 3(w/ Jackpot on cover)
This doesn't include the issues I have of Marvel Knights, Marvel Age, Marvel Adventures, Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man, Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane, Sensational Spider-Man, Web of Spider-Man, Spectacular Spider-Man, etc. Hopefully I can chronicle all of those in order later. I wanna also see what percentage of my collection is Spider-Man. I'd be surprised if it was anything lower than 80%
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Post by mr. excellent on Dec 27, 2016 3:38:21 GMT -5
That's an awesome list man. Must've taken you forever! I've wanted to do a list like that for some time, but laziness prevents me from making a list. I think I have all of Ultimate Spider-man, except maybe a couple issues from after Peter Parker dies.
So, a bit of sad news. I didn't know where to post it, and honestly, we don't really post this type of stuff here but here goes. My grandfather passed away yesterday. He was 89 years old. His love and influence on the success and health of my entire family goes beyond words. From 2003 - 2006, all of my posts on the Sony Spider-man forums were on their home computer, funny enough. I'd go to grandpa and grandma's house just about every day after school and running practice to do yard work, then homework, then waste time on the internet. He'll be dearly missed.
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Post by brotherandbassist on Dec 27, 2016 16:13:10 GMT -5
I'm very sorry to hear that, mr. excellent. I need to spend more time with my grandparents for sure. They are great people and I am sure yours were/are as well. You will always have the positive memories to hold on to. Did you guys hear that Carrie Fisher died?
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Post by mr. excellent on Dec 29, 2016 16:38:40 GMT -5
Yessir, I sure did. Her mom passed the very next day. What a way to end the year indeed.
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Post by BackinBlack on Dec 30, 2016 19:10:41 GMT -5
So Marvel's Civil War II comic FINALLY wrapped this week. Let me just say that if you haven't been reading or waiting for the trade, let me just say that I CANNOT recommend it on any level. It's just infuriating, especially if your a fan of Hulk, Carol Danvers, or the Guardians of the Galaxy. I give it a 4/10 on the story, but seriously, avoid it like the plague. It's one of Marvel's worst events ever like Fear Itself and Age of Ultron.
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Post by mr. excellent on Jan 2, 2017 3:12:25 GMT -5
Sorry to hear. I read a statement from one of Marvel's big wigs who said Marvel accomplished their goals with the story, but of course they're going to say that right now. I never had much interest in it, but a few years from now I might go back and check some of it out. Today I read the first tpb of Spider-man with Miles Morales. Considering that there have been like 3 or 4 universe ending events in the Ultimate books, I'm going to clarify by sharing that when this story ends, Civil War 2 begins. It's kind of confusing, because Miles' dad knows he's Spider-man and now his mom is alive again. I don't know when any of that happened. I knew that when the Ultimate universe ended, Miles was brought into the 616, but I just didn't realize the other things that changed with it. I'm happy tho, kid should have his parents. I'm also close to finishing Goblin Nation. For all the complaining I may have done prior to the series, I loved the story. I feel that Slott really went for it, and gave the story time to unfold. It definitely brought some new dimensions to Doc Ock as a character, and I'm excited to see how it wraps up. Next up on my list is 'Renew Your Vows' and Spider-Gwen vol. 1. I'm very excited. At some point I still need to read Fractions' 'Unfixable' which focuses on Doc Ock confronting Tony Stark just before he takes over Peter's body. Then I'll need to get to 'Demon', which is the story Fraction uses as a follow up.
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Post by mr. excellent on Jan 4, 2017 20:45:57 GMT -5
So, I finished Goblin Nation, which leaves off with Peter Parker back in his own body . I got chills. Compared to the character work of a J Michael Straczynski or the plot construction of a Matt Fraction, Slott isn't quite there for me. But I definitely feel that he was inspired with his work on Superior Spider-man. While I very much enjoyed Spider-verse, I think Superior Spider-man stands as one of my favorite arcs for Spider-man as a character. I loved the way Doc Ock was finally able to sacrifice himself for the sake of Anna Maria. I love the way Peter was able to see that little bit of humanity in Ock. It took me a while to read the whole thing, which spans just over 30 issues I believe, so what nitpicks I may or may not have had escape me. It was fun to just absorb the book and not get too critical with it. There is one thing I really disliked tho, which is that Peter has this realization that in order for Peter to be back in his own body, someone had to die. This comes hot on the heels of him boasting on the fact that when he's Spider-man people don't have to die. So, again with the guilt. Throughout his entire run, Peter Parker's defining characteristic has been his guilt. There's a strong argument for that being his main reason for being a hero still. Now, I understand that guilt was a dramatic reason for him to get into the superhero business to begin with, but at some point, shouldn't he be allowed evolve? You never forget, but you move forward, right? There are people out there who are genuinely good people and who do good things because they feel a calling, and Peter definitely has that in him too. I'm just saying that as a dynamic human being, people's reasons for doing things change. I think guilt is always a part of our lives, but when you work with people in need, at some point something else takes over and inspiration comes elsewhere. Maybe it's the burden of the need that has to be fulfilled, I don't know. Listen fellas, we've been here before. Straczynski's run was controversial in plot, but one thing he handled in spades was Peter and Spider-man as a person. Joe Quesada and Marvel didn't like that Spider-man was 'all growed up' so they undid years of character development, which Straczynski handled beautifully. Straczynski didn't feel this need to write "everyone who comes into contact with me will suffer" or "I have to fix it because it's all my fault!" on every other page. Sure, it was in there, but he wasn't bound to it, he didn't let it suffocate his writing. I'd like for an author to come along and reconnect Peter with the real people of New York. For Peter to be inspired by the people in his neighborhood or district, or wherever. Their goodness and sense of community and responsibility to each other should be his main source of motivation by now. Look at the way Luke Cage is written. Luke spends quite a while telling the few people who know his secret that he doesn't want to be a hero. He gets inspired by the people around him and the sacrifices they make, and then chooses to do what only he can do. He's a hero for the people because their goodness inspires him to aspire to more. Fraction writes Hawkeye in this way too. His personal life is a complete mess, but he finds himself getting into all sorts of adventures involving the mundane because these people mean something in his life. It's fun reading about Hawkeye going to help some guy clear out his basement before a hurricane hits. Spider-man is an Avengers' level hero, but similar to how that huge scale got stale in the movies, I think we'd be better of if in the comics he made a return to being a friendly neighborhood Spider-man too. On a personal level, I feel the same thing working as a teacher when I see my fellow teachers doing so well. I try to do right for family too in that I do my best to do right by other people so as to bring some form of honor and pride to my family. It's not the only thing that motivates me, but my point is, people are motivated by multiple things. Let's explore some more dimensions of Peter. Maybe we can move past this soap opera model too. He can still be an every man without his life having to feel like Days of Our Lives.
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Post by aliensuit1495 on Jan 6, 2017 0:20:01 GMT -5
I am truly amazed that you people are still on here
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Post by mr. excellent on Jan 6, 2017 1:38:42 GMT -5
First and foremost, happy birthday Webber! Saw the announcement notification message thing at the bottom of the main page.
Secondly, aliensuit, it has been a long time man. Best to you; it's good to see one of the founding members back after so long (even if it's just to drop in). In relation to what you said, I definitely had a sentimental attachment to the Sony Spider-man boards, which flowed into this place. Maybe that's why some of the others are still here too. I certainly hope we can keep it going, maybe see some of the founding members return every now and again. What brought this place to your mind after so long an absence?
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Post by aliensuit1495 on Jan 6, 2017 4:28:52 GMT -5
It's good to see you too mr excellent! Funny thing you mention Webber's birthday because I was actually congratulating him on facebook and he happened to mention these boards so I asked him for the link, since I'd long forgotten it, and decided I might as well drop in. I must admit I frequently forget about it. There's been a few times I wanted to drop in but then totally forgot.
I understand what you mean about the sentimental attachment. I have a lot of nostalgia for those forums, and I was sad to see them go.
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Post by Webber3000 on Jan 7, 2017 0:46:52 GMT -5
Thanks for the wishes Excellent! And I feel you alien, I am also amazed we managed to keep the ball rolling, in a good way for sure.
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Post by brotherandbassist on Jan 11, 2017 15:28:47 GMT -5
I no longer have a working computer at my house, so this is my first time on here in three weeks. I should be able to get on here again from time to time starting on January 18th because that's when I go back to college and I'll be able to make use of the library computer, but even then it'll be very sporadic because I'm taking six classes, all which are higher level for my major. It will probably be a long time before I am a regular contributor again, unfortunately Speaking of comics, I went to a flea market recently and found used graphic novels for $2 a piece. I nabbed one that chronicled the first couple of Spider-Man/Fantastic Four team ups, I found one that chronicled War Machine Max Explicit content #1-12(great story, but filled with graphic language and un-necessary, surprise pop ups of female nudity that gave me a heart attack), and one that chronicled the stories of Dr. Stromm as a living computer(Peter having to decide whether or not to end his life out of mercy), and the story of the villain Fusion from the "Peter Parker: Spider-Man" comics.
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