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Post by brotherandbassist on Aug 21, 2017 19:02:41 GMT -5
I'm watching it right now. I waited ten years for this! I feel like I'm eleven again. There were rumors going around about a 3.1 starting like two months after the movie came out in theaters back in 07, and I've been anticipating it ever since. One thing the link I tagged that showcases the differences pointed out was that the score is different throughout the movie. I thought that was interesting. I also bought the Rogue Cut of Days of Future Past
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Post by mr. excellent on Aug 26, 2017 11:20:15 GMT -5
That's crazy, but that's one thing about Sony and Spider-man. They say they're going to put out an alternate cut, they end up doing it some time or another. I actually think Spider-man 2.1 is better than the theatrical cut. The train scene was just a little better and I think even the bank fight scene had some extra cool stuff in it. Not sure. I liked that extra Sandman scene in SM 3.1 with the sand castle though, they would've done it before it was done in TSSM.
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Post by brotherandbassist on Aug 26, 2017 20:33:51 GMT -5
I'm actually watching The Spectacular Spider-Man right now if that is what you're referring to. I had actually never watched it and I love it! We have some kind of app on our Roku box and you can watch it free with ads, so it's like watching it on TV sort of. I started with the episode that introduces Shocker and now I'm on the episode where Spidey learns Goblin's identity.
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Post by mr. excellent on Aug 27, 2017 4:34:46 GMT -5
I'm so glad you're finally getting an opportunity to watch it. It's a real gem. Let us know how you feel about the series as a whole, or your thoughts on any episodes along the way.
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Post by brotherandbassist on Aug 27, 2017 20:06:00 GMT -5
I'm watching the episode called "Blueprints" on Crackle.
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Post by BackinBlack on Aug 27, 2017 20:49:06 GMT -5
Past season one I see. For me, it was "Intervention" that cemented this as the best Spidey show to me.
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Post by mr. excellent on Aug 27, 2017 22:24:54 GMT -5
I'm going to have to rewatch the series to figure out which episode did it for me. I actually think the opening episode hooked me. The action was deceptively simple, but sooo much better than what I've seen in the other Marvel cartoons. I actually prefer its action to every other Marvel show to date, though this new serious looks like it could deliver some cool sequences.
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Post by Webber3000 on Aug 28, 2017 16:03:10 GMT -5
I believe the first episode I watched was actually the season 1 finale, Nature vs. Nurture, and I was hooked! I watched it again immediately, followed by the entire season from the start.
I'm surprised Intervention is the one that did it for you, Blacky. Honestly, I think it's one of my least favourite episodes.
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Post by BackinBlack on Aug 28, 2017 19:27:18 GMT -5
Really? For me, it was probably the most dramatic at that point. We have Peter at a low point in a tug of war between the symbiote and Uncle Ben, either giving into the hurt the world has caused him or rise above it and continue the good he's done. It's the very essence of Peter's character, and the show did it wonderfully. Then you had the ending with the symbiote and Eddie coming together, actually talking to one another as they form their bond as Venom; terrifying stuff. Besides that, I think we can agree that this was the best interpretation of Eddie/Venom, that he actually has a true gripe against Spider-Man and Peter instead of just blaming him for his own mistakes.
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Post by mr. excellent on Aug 28, 2017 19:56:21 GMT -5
After your comments above, I now know which episode you're talking about. I think they did a great job with the material, but for me it was an origins episode that I didn't really need. For that reason, it's not my favorite episode, but they did a great job with it though. I can appreciate it still. I think my favorite episode would have to be from season 2; the Gangland episode. Season 2 is packed with a bunch of great episodes, so I do have a hard time with it. I think the season 1 finale is also up there, as well as the season 2 finale and the series penultimate episode called Opening Night. Gangland did such a great job at tying all the different arcs together and everyone got their due with great action to boot. Tombstone vs. Spider-man round 2 is vicious though. Ultimate Spider-man may have had more details in its characterizations, but the hand to hand combat didn't really do it for me.
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Post by mr. excellent on Sept 8, 2017 20:28:36 GMT -5
I don't get as crazy as I used to about box office performance and movies, but I'm still invested in my favorite franchises doing well. I love that Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.2 did such good business this year, as did Logan and Wonder Woman. I think it's a shame Lego Batman didn't pull in more, though it still did well (did about $9 million shy of tripling its budget). I'm bringing this up because Spider-man is opening in China this weekend and is expected to pull in $70-75 million over the next 3 days. While I've stopped paying attention to the weekly tally's of my favorite movies all year long like I used to, I've actually been keeping my ear close to the ground on this one (for the reason that this Spider-man film is obviously different from the others with its MCU connection)
Forbes is estimating the film to end up in the $880 million range, which would make it the highest grossing superhero movie of the year (worldwide, not domestically) and the second highest earning Spider-man film in franchise history. We still have a ways to go before that happens, but I'll say this: all those articles that came out talking about the diminishing returns can finally be put to rest. The people writing those articles knew the film had yet to open in one of the world's largest markets, but they wrote them and borrowed headlines from each other any way because they needed something to print. Granted, the profit margin in China isn't as big because... I don't know why. Who keeps the larger percentage of money for films debuting in China? The government? I don't know. Whoever it is, the studio doesn't see as much return, but that's not the point. The point is, the box office is the strongest its been since pre-Spider-man 3 era when Spider-man 2 was considered a contender for greatest superhero movie of all time. I guess I'm frustrated that the publications printing articles on box office returns only seem to focus on domestic box office when international returns are more significant to a franchise's success than ever these days. Profit margins fluctuate depending on the territory, but that doesn't change the fact that international box office matters, and they treat it like it doesn't.
Before Vol.2 of Guardians came out, many including myself could see the film busting $1 billion with ease if it delivered the goods. While $860 million + is nothing to sneeze it, it's quite a ways from $1 billion. With Spider-man, I think some people had an unrealistic expectation that it too crack that billion dollar mark because every film with Iron Man since Avengers has cracked that number. But I think the fairest metric to compare this film to has to be other Spider-man films. Yes, Homecoming had the advantage of being in the MCU with Iron Man in it, but it's also the 2nd reboot in 5 years, and the 6th Spider-man film since 2002. Those 2 things largely cancel each other out, and in that regard, it puts the film on an even playing field. With that said, anything that reaches Sam Raimi Spider-man numbers has to be a moral victory, in spite of the knuckle heads who only see something as a success if it has 9 zeroes trailing behind it.
Last thing: Spider-man Homecoming is the second lowest costing Spider-man film in the franchise's roster, costing the studio $175 million dollars. Everything outside of Homecoming and Spider-man (2002) cost $200 million+. That's great for profit.
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Post by Webber3000 on Sept 8, 2017 21:25:09 GMT -5
I'd like to point out that Spider-Man 2 is still a contender for greatest superhero movie of all time.
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Post by mr. excellent on Sept 10, 2017 13:49:06 GMT -5
I agree, it's up there still I think, within a specific category though. Like, I remember when people used to say superhero movies weren't a genre unto themselves, but that can't be the case these days. Now, not only is it a genre, but there are categories within it. One could argue all day about category placement, but my point is, movies like Logan aren't really the same thing as a Spider-man 2 (2004) and can't be compared part for part since they're going for completely different things.
On a different subject, I helped move my younger brother to college yesterday. He's 8 years younger, and is going as a transfer student. I thought I'd be a mess on the drive home because I'm sentimental like that, but I did okay. I find that when something crazy significant happens to me or to people I care about, I wake up several times the night after and just think extremely sappy thoughts. It's a curse, haha. Like, I woke up and remembered the day my parents brought him home from the hospital. Lord help me when I have my own kids... I think my wife will be the one consoling me.
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Post by Webber3000 on Sept 10, 2017 15:15:29 GMT -5
Man oh man, I can relate to your sappiness.
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Post by mr. excellent on Sept 10, 2017 15:32:05 GMT -5
Do tell, haha!
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