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Post by mr. excellent on May 20, 2016 18:00:24 GMT -5
www.comicbookmovie.com/spider-man/new-details-on-the-villains-costume-upgrades-in-spider-man-homecoming-a141891Rumor has it that the costume will use web wings, but with a twist. Also in the article, at some point Michael Keaton re-entered negotiations with Marvel. Now he's allegedly in final negotiations. Can I get a "hell yeah", anyone? Also, bring back J.K. because why the hell not? He'll be a good Gordon, doesn't mean he can't do both. The man still does State Farm commercials, no? This next thing is sort of out there, but would anyone here riot if Ice Cube was cast as Jameson? I mean, it's totally out there and way off canon, but I could see it.
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Post by BackinBlack on May 20, 2016 18:50:08 GMT -5
I'd think they'll recast Jameson since Marvel's shown to want to do things new and different from before. I just can't see Ice Cube in the role though.
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Post by mr. excellent on Jun 28, 2016 17:00:02 GMT -5
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Post by mr. excellent on Jul 1, 2016 0:03:22 GMT -5
Anyone else getting annoyed with the way entertainment media is covering the Spider-man cast additions? The film is being called over stuffed and whatnot. Come on now. With today's 7 day a week movie news coverage and social media being what it is, we simply have access to every casting detail whereas before we did not. Most of these people who have been announced over the past 2 weeks probably won't have more than a couple lines of dialogue, if that even.
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Post by BackinBlack on Jul 1, 2016 5:26:26 GMT -5
It's what it seems like (the couple lines of dialogue thing). Hell, it's hard to get excited for any of these castings because they don't even tell you who they're playing.
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Post by Webber3000 on Jul 16, 2016 14:05:54 GMT -5
Electro's original costume in a movie? I have a tough time imagining that working.
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Post by BackinBlack on Jul 16, 2016 19:54:57 GMT -5
Electro's original costume in a movie? I have a tough time imagining that working. Yeah, I think the closest we've gotten to a realistic version of Electro's original suit was in Web of Shadows, and even then, it still looked silly. But his updated look from The Gauntlet from a couple years ago could work:
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Post by Webber3000 on Jul 16, 2016 21:11:51 GMT -5
Yeah, interesting. Electro's probably one of the hardest characters to portray right on the big screen. I really like what they did with him in The Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon, but I can't see that being translated to live action either.
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Post by BackinBlack on Jul 16, 2016 22:49:34 GMT -5
Yeah, interesting. Electro's probably one of the hardest characters to portray right on the big screen. I really like what they did with him in The Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon, but I can't see that being translated to live action either. Yeah, that was a good look too, but the whole 'head always sprouting electricity' thing would be distracting in live action. Say what you will about Jamie Foxx's look, but for the most part, I thought it was pretty good, though he really didn't need that whole 'costume' for the climax.
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Post by mr. excellent on Jul 16, 2016 23:03:10 GMT -5
Yeah, complete with lightning bolts on the shoulders. It's the same type of silly as Bryan Singer putting "hidden" X's in all of his X-Men movies. I too actually liked Jamie Fox's look though. You're right about the costume and the film's climax. Electro being able to transform into pure energy and then reappear elsewhere still wearing the suit is never going to make sense.
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Post by mr. excellent on Jul 22, 2016 3:21:16 GMT -5
This is sort of off topic, but I just had a thought. Marvel reveals release dates to their upcoming films one phase at a time (however a phase is defined). So it goes without saying that they don't have a release date for the sequel to Spider-man: Homecoming, considering a sequel won't be announced for a long time. That said, by the time the inevitable sequel does come out, the mystical side of Marvel will have been fully introduced in Dr.Strange and Iron Fist (to some extent, separate as the Netflixverse may be at the moment). That being the case, Marvel will be able to call on extra dimensions and alternate realities come phase 4. So, what if they actually took advantage of the fact that there have been other Spider people* to play the character? Like shattered dimensions or Spiderverse? Signs are pointing to the cross over, buddy team up movie being the next wave: Black Panther may see other Avengers, Thor teams up with Hulk, Avengers' movies are by definition team ups, Guardians' is an ensemble team movie... The Ant Man franchise has gone the way of the Captain America films right out the gate by using other powered people in their solo adventures. Imagine that instead of doing a straight Spider-man sequel, they go for a Dr.Strange/Spider-man team up for their follow up? Just think of what a panel announcement would be like if they revealed a story like that at SDCC. First you see Tom Holland on stage, then Benedict comes out, crowd loses their minds. Then Andrew and Tobey come out, people like me pass out. Then, they hit the rest of the crowd with the introduction of whoever they cast to play Miles Morales or something. I would die. That would be it, it'd be over for sure.
We've always had these "what if?" conversations where the sky was the limit, but we're finally in an age where it really is possible. Why would Marvel go this route though? Especially because they've specifically cast a young Spider-man to play off of these more seasoned Avengers? Wasn't that the point, to have him be the kid? Well, at this point, Spider-man is the only character under the Marvel Studios banner that they could actually this (bring back previous actors) for. Since these other Spider-men are actually 10-20 years Holland's senior, Marvel Studios' Spider-man would still have the distinction of being the youngest (or 2nd to youngest, depending on Morales showing up and Marvel actually keeping him younger than Peter Parker). Still, why would they do this? To that I say, why not? Spider-man may have one of the best (if not THE best) rogue's galleries around, yet by the time it is sequel time, we'll have already had 6 Spider-man films with 7 classic villains. Thanks to Civil War and most likely the upcoming Avengers movies we'll have seen Spider-man battle along side other heroes too. We won't, however, have ever seen the old guard fight along side iwth the new. How many times have we heard people say "if only we could've seen Sam Raimi's and Tobey Maguire's Spider-man or Andrew Garfield's Spider-man play in Marvel Studios sandbox"? While both Maguire and Garfield have their detractors, I can't help but think people would still get excited to see them brought into the fold somehow. I know Sony wouldn't mind, as it points a more positive light on the legacy of Spider-man on screen that they've been responsible for.
*yes, I am implying that Tobey Maguire biologically produces his own organic webbing and Andrew Garfield can at least stick to walls
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Post by mr. excellent on Jul 28, 2016 23:44:36 GMT -5
Fair enough, I've been reading a string of really good X-Men stories that have me clamoring for a live action tv show. Kept thinking about it all day, and even typed a little something up. Like you, I'm not confident enough in it to share at the moment. I will say that I can see a live action X-Men show taking a similar approach as Boston Public, except with mutants. Focus less on the kids and more on the faculty and what they'd have to deal with on a day to day basis. Kids can become part of the main narrative, but they aren't the main characters. This is definitely not in the right thread, so... back to Spider-man!
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Post by mr. excellent on Jul 29, 2016 1:32:01 GMT -5
Hooray for ideas!
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Post by mr. excellent on Jul 30, 2016 14:52:15 GMT -5
So I was thinking about Civil War, and it made me wonder, what is the dynamic between Peter Parker/Spider-man and Tony Stark/Iron Man? That's definitely something that will be fleshed out in Homecoming, but like, how do the Accords factor in? With roughly half of the Avengers now outlaws, and the other half acting on the whim of a world council, Spider-man hasn't signed anything that we know of. Tony has. If Spider-man ever gets caught, what's Tony gonna do? They know Spidey's in 'cahoots' with Iron Man, that's one thing, but to be supplied combat tech by Tony... Or at least, tech used in combat. How does Tony get away with that? Are they going to go public and instate Spider-man as a special agent (so that his identity is known to a small committee but not the general public) Or what? To me, it'd be kind of cheap if everyone just kind of forgot about the Accords in Homecoming, which might be easy to do since the next Marvel movies are sort not your Earth bound stories (except Dr.Strange, who is on a whole other level of weird and possibly not bound to the Accords). I'm just wondering how this Accords thing is going to play out in the future of the MCU with regard to Spider-man.
The obvious way to look at it is that, as always, Spider-man is a vigilante acting outside of the law as he always has. Problem is, he's working with Tony, who isn't working outside the law. Sorry to be so repetitive in my writing here.
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Post by mr. excellent on Aug 1, 2016 18:18:39 GMT -5
That would be cool. Did anyone read the footage descriptions from comic con? It sounds like a ton of fun. I definitely get the feeling that it could be similar to Guardians of the Galaxy. Full of laughs but with a lot of heart.
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