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Post by Caveboy0 on Jul 17, 2012 14:38:15 GMT -5
might. i think the movie might be too depressing to really give glowing recommendations to go see it. a very heavy movie it seems.
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Post by mr. excellent on Jul 17, 2012 18:05:29 GMT -5
Apparently, RT has already released their consensus, even though they’ve only taken 46 reviews into account.
“The Dark Knight Rises is an ambitious, thoughtful, and potent action film that concludes Christopher Nolan’s franchise in spectacular fashion, even if it doesn’t quite meet the high standard set by its predecessor.”
Of course, this is just the average opinion summed up in a nice neat sentence. I’m not really putting much stock in this assessment though. In some ways, Batman Begins was “The Dark Knight” ‘s superior, and yet “The Dark Knight” is the benchmark that other super hero movies aspire to, in terms of quality. But really now, Begins had a better handle on the narrative and the pacing, arguably the better script too, although that one is a very tough call. On a whole, it felt like a more complete movie to me. Doesn’t mean that “Dark Knight” wasn’t thorough as a film, it was really solid. All I’m saying is that “Begins” has to be one of the most thorough movies I’ve ever seen (Nolan made the existence of a character like Batman seem feasible, covering secret identity, training, resources, villain motive, etc.) and in this department I do think it was better than TDK.
Don’t get me wrong though. “The Dark Knight” was more gripping, the sense of danger was much more potent in the film and I also think it was better at pulling you into the story (even though I think Begins’ story was better) because the performances were a lot bigger and better the second time around. Gordon, Lucius Fox, Alfred, Bruce, all of them had heavier things to deal with, and they were able to develop their characters beyond what we’d seen in Begins’, so the payoff felt better. Then there’s Joker, Harvey Dent, and the expansion of the mob’s presence in the film. For me, it was a more moving film, more emotionally gripping too.
All of this is leading to one point though, and that is that Rises may end up being considered the crown jewel of Nolan’s Batman’s franchise when all is said and done. Suppose it doesn’t have the emotional potency of its immediate predecessor, doesn’t mean it’s not the better film. Myself, personally, I’m looking for a mix between the first two installments: a film where Batman is front and center, with the narrative and pacing quality of Begins, but with the urgency and emotional connection of TDK. If Rises achieves that, then I’ll probably hold it in the highest regard of the 3 Bat movies, even if it’s missing what Heath Ledger brought to the table, or the emotional gravitas that Batman’s sacrifice made at the end of the film. For now though, I’ll conceed that some critics reviews seem to indicate that the film doesn’t capture either of those traits as well as I’d hoped.
I know it sounds like I’m investing too much in the third film being the biggest and best. Rest assured though, if Rises is a great movie, I will be happy with it. Even if I end up agreeing with RT’s critics’ summary. It’s not like it’s a bad summation, far from it.
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Post by BackinBlack on Jul 17, 2012 18:24:06 GMT -5
I can't even read what you mean to say because of all this Batman shit. It was funny for awhile, but it's gotten annoying. Webber, fix all this now.
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Post by Caveboy0 on Jul 17, 2012 18:26:37 GMT -5
idk where he is this is getting ridiculous!
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Post by mr. excellent on Jul 17, 2012 23:26:30 GMT -5
Figure it'll still be there when everything is fixed.
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Post by Caveboy0 on Jul 18, 2012 1:09:58 GMT -5
no w e tested it-before so w e knew Batman t wasnot going tobe permanent
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Post by Caveboy0 on Jul 18, 2012 1:10:44 GMT -5
okay-this-seems-to-be-a-fix
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Post by Spidey 1923 on Jul 18, 2012 1:37:22 GMT -5
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Post by Caveboy0 on Jul 18, 2012 1:53:03 GMT -5
i-can't Webber-said tomorrow so-we-wait
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Post by Spidey 1923 on Jul 18, 2012 5:01:17 GMT -5
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Post by Webber3000 on Jul 18, 2012 8:30:39 GMT -5
Calm your Batman, Batman's back to Batman.
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Post by Caveboy0 on Jul 18, 2012 9:02:59 GMT -5
batman!
no seriously hurray. that got pretty horrible.
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Post by mr. excellent on Jul 18, 2012 15:58:41 GMT -5
While I haven't seen the movie of course, I'd have to say that this review captures my sentiments on what I think I'll take from this final Nolan Batman film. Here's a snippet: "Nolan was under a lot of pressure to deliver after the critical and commercial juggernaut that was The Dark Knight, and he has succeeded. Is it better? yes, in many ways it is, and in many ways the previous movie wins out. The point is that it is a worthy follow up, and a more than satisfying ending to the trilogy." -Mark "RorMachine" Cassidy The full review is spoiler free, or at least, nothing is revealed that wasn't already revealed in the trailers. www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=64099#comments
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Post by Spidey 1923 on Jul 18, 2012 22:10:57 GMT -5
Seeing it in two hours...
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Post by Caveboy0 on Jul 18, 2012 23:38:24 GMT -5
is this your midnight premiere?
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