Marvel Animated Future: They ARE listening to fans

[BackinBlack]

Since this relates to a number of shows forthcoming from Marvel Animation, I thought I would make its own thread for this news: They ARE listening!
www.marveltvnews.com/2012/06/13/exclusive-agent-x-spills-the-bean-on-the-future-of-marvel-animation-and-did-he-just-mention-a-new-x-men-tv-series/

Some of the main points:

* Marvel is listening to the fans hate for Ultimate Spider-Man and realize they screwed up, but will still try to praise it for marketing purposes (even going so far as to have plants at comic con panels).

*Ultimate Spider-Man was renewed for a second season before all the hate and ratings drop. They will possibly make it better with more episodes written by Bendis and Dini. This change could bring fans around and get it back for a third season, or it will conclude and a new show will be made in line with the new movies.

*Unlike Ultimate Spider-Man, Hulk and the Agents of SMASH won't be renewed until they see how the ratings do for the first season. It will follow the same format of being kid friendly, no real plot, and pure action.

*Avengers Assemble will no longer take place in the same universe as Ultimate Spider-Man and Hulk/SMASH and will be much more serious so kids and adults can enjoy it.

*Marvel's pumping more money into Avengers Assemble more than the other shows so we can expect great animation quality.

*Along with Falcon, Black Panther, Ant-Man, and Ms. Marvel may also appear on the show.

*A new X-Men series is in development and possibly set in the same universe as Avengers Assemble, even hinting at an AvX type crossover.

Now my thoughts on all this. I have a little renewed hope.
*I'm glad they will try to make Ultimate Spider-Man better, but I feel the damage is done already. May as well just cut their losses and make a new series set with Avengers and X-Men, and give it the same feel as the Spectacular show and Amazing movie.
*Got a strong feeling Hulk won't make it another season based on all this, especially since fans know how it will be.
*I have new hope for Avengers Assemble, but I don't get why they couldn't have just renewed EMH and use the movie cast for the third season. Whatever though, at least it'll be more serious.
*I've been wanting a new X-Men series but didn't want to see how they would fuck it up based on what has happened with Spidey and Hulk. But it seems like Marvel's getting their head in the game now.

What do you guys think of all this?

[mr. excellent]

Sounds ok. I fell off with Avengers EMH after the first season concluded, but I plan on getting back into it soon. I don't even have basic cable, so I always have to watch the episodes on the internet anyway.

100% agreed on Spider-man. Damage is already done, move on. Get rid of Drake Bell.

[Caveboy0]

getting rid of bell isn't going to change that horrible dialogue and episode structures. still a complete change can only help

idk Avengers EMH was never that smart imo. the plots were complex only because they are based on the better written comics. the way they portray Cap makes me want to plant my head in a pot.

i have hopes for the new avengers series to just be better and as for BiB's remarks it all comes down to production teams and they just weren't disney.

[mr. excellent]

I understand that Bell isn't at fault for the show's biggest issues, but his voicework adds icing to the cake. It just solidifies the tackyness of the show's approach to humor. Even so, I only meant to say it as a quick closing statement. Nothing too serious.

[BackinBlack]

I probably wouldn't have minded Bell, but I just can't take him seriously as Spider-Man now because of how cheesy the show is, even when he did the voice on Avengers.

[BackinBlack]

Apparently the other show in the works besides X-Men is Iron Man:
www.superherohype.com/news/articles/171247-new-iron-man-cartoon-in-the-works

[mr. excellent]

In looking for a thread on Wolverine and the X-Men, I found this. It saddens me to say we never got another X-Men show, that Ultimate Spider-Man never really got better, that we now have a better Spider-Man cartoon but it's still a far cry from Spectacular, and Marvel animation still doesn't seem to be trying. Where's the heart in these shows? Hell, I've been watching X-Men Evolution and even that show has more of an "IT" factor than the stuff they've been putting out the last 8 years. I wish they'd get Greg Weisman and Craig Kyle, put those two guys together again and see what they can do.

Edit: On the other hand, considering how bland Marvel's cartoons have been the last 8 years, it might not be such a bad thing that they haven't put out an X-Men show. I guess they have come out with X-Men cartoons internationally, but I haven't seen those yet so I can't speak to them.

[BackinBlack]

Yeah, this post has not aged well. I thought Ultimate did get better but eventually got bad again. I gave up on Avengers after season three; just couldn't handle the mediocrity anymore. X-Men may have gotten the shaft as well, but they were getting a whole different kind of shaft from Marvel during that time. The Guardians show was good, but didn't really feel the same after the second movie came out.
I'd like to think that after Spider-Man wraps up its third season and Feige now being in charge of EVERYTHING at Marvel, we're going to get a new era of Marvel animation, one that could return the glory we had with Spectacular, EMH, and W&TXM.

[mr. excellent]

I still want to go back and watch the Guardians show. Never watched it consistently besides the odd episode here or there. Feige's promotion to Chief Creative Officer is an interesting one. We'll see what it leads to.