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Post by BackinBlack on Jan 27, 2015 13:13:29 GMT -5
Meh.
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Post by Caveboy0 on Jan 27, 2015 17:31:30 GMT -5
I really dig the horror vibe to them receiving their powers. The director cited Chronenberg as an inspiration and I find that an intriguing and surprising source for a comic book. The issue with this style is becoming stale and emotionless. I'm still shocked that as different as these films goes the design directors keep coming back to the beam in the sky. Every comic book film has had one for the past 7 years. It's lost any sense of awe.
Bottom line I feel like their origin has some real meat to it. Their bodies are being distorted and the process isn't pretty. With that kind of guttural beginning the emotional reactions can feel more relatable.
I'm seeing something new here that I really dig but also some redundant visuals. I'll wait for more to give a concrete opinion
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Post by mr. excellent on Jan 27, 2015 19:46:06 GMT -5
I agree. While I respect the concerns of fans like you BIB, I am excited when directors come from angles I didn't see. Trank is trying to do something here that feels different from what has come before, and to me (at least), it doesn't see different for the sake of being different (not that you were saying it was). There does, as you have pointed out Caveboy, seem to be meat to their transformations. Beyond that, the cinematography and the filters being used here look great. Found footage, this film is not. At least, not if the trailer is any indication of what is to come. Maybe some of it will be in that style, but that looked gorgeous.
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Post by Webber3000 on Jan 27, 2015 21:45:49 GMT -5
Not a huge fan of the voice over, but I think it's a fine teaser trailer overall.
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Post by mr. excellent on Jan 28, 2015 1:38:13 GMT -5
I liked the voice over until around the 55 second mark. After that... I dunno. Maybe the shift in music just didn't work as well for me. Still crossing my fingers about this being a pleasant surprise. You never know.
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Post by mr. excellent on Feb 14, 2015 15:55:17 GMT -5
So, anyone read the Ultimate line of Fantastic Four stories? I've heard they're actually really good, and am kind of excited to get started on them. Especially if they're a source (minor or major) of inspiration for this take.
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Post by BackinBlack on Feb 14, 2015 17:52:54 GMT -5
Last night, I actually watched this video on YouTube that covered the first arc of the series. It was actually pretty good, with some emotional moments and, like we've discussed before, there's some horror feel to the initial power introduction. I can definitely see the parts that are inspiration to the movie. I don't want to say that it puts me at ease about the movie, but I do see what they're going for. Blogger Doom still pisses me off though.
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Post by mr. excellent on Feb 14, 2015 18:27:06 GMT -5
Understandable. Hollywood has tried to do the internet terrorist thing so many times, and it seems like every time, no one buys it. Why do they keep using that angle?
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Post by BackinBlack on Apr 9, 2015 17:42:06 GMT -5
When I see this, I think of this. lol Honestly though, and I know this may seem like nitpicking, but it looks a little too monstrous. The thing about...Thing is that buried under all that rock, there's still a human side showing through, especially the eyes. You look at any interpretation of Thing, comics, cartoons, and even the Michael Chicklis version, his eyes are very prominent. That's where you see the humanity that still is Ben Grimm.
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Post by mr. excellent on Apr 19, 2015 17:00:45 GMT -5
I see things about this thing I like, and things that I'm somewhat worried about. The low-fi sci fi element kicks ass. I love Dr.Storm, he has been a great narrator for both trailers. If the rest of the cast has dialogue on par with his and executes it, this could be pretty damn awesome. On the other hand, the more I see of the Thing, the less I like the look. The eyes do look bigger now though. Just not in a good way. Still optimistic about this.
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Post by BackinBlack on Apr 19, 2015 18:43:00 GMT -5
Something went wrong when you tried to post the trailer, excellent. I got you covered.
Damn it. I hate myself for saying that that looked pretty good. Even Thing looks a little better. It's making it a little harder to not see it in theaters for Marvel's sake.
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Post by BackinBlack on May 23, 2015 21:10:18 GMT -5
RUMORS: Matthew Vaugn directed reshoots; film will no longer be released in 3D. www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=120916If it's not in 3D, I think that shows how much faith Fox has in this. At this point, while I think it could critically go either way (but more negative than positive), I believe the deciding factor for the FF's future will be the box office. More specifically, Fox may be comparing it to the other comic book film coming out this summer: Ant-Man. When you think back to last year, the lesser known Guardians of the Galaxy from Marvel grossed much higher than Sony's Amazing Spider-Man 2, even though Spidey's supposed to be the most popular superhero ever, with merchandise sales confirming that. You have to think that after Guardians made it big, that was when Sony started to have their problems. Now this year, Marvel's putting out Ant-Man, who's the last hero you'd expect to get a movie, but Marvel's earned enough confidence from audiences that they're excited for it, despite some still thinking it will be Marvel's first flop. Though those people probably said the same thing about Guardians. While Fantastic Four are definitely more well known, Fox has produced two films that weren't really big hits and this reboot has had tons of bad press because of the direction it's taking along with the behind the scenes problems. Compared to Ant-Man, there's very little hype and the negative views far outweigh the positive. While I think it's possible that the reboot may make decent money, I don't see it becoming the hit Fox would have liked it to be, especially if Ant-Man makes much more than it.
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Post by mr. excellent on May 24, 2015 13:01:58 GMT -5
Re-reading this, I don't want it to come off as though I'm trying to be a contrarian toward you BIB. It might sound like that, and I've modified it some. It'll all be smoothed out in discussion if need be, but here it goes:
Guardians of the Galaxy had its naysayers, but Marvel was freaking out over the Guardians script, which was at the time being called "Marvel's best" up until that point. Triple that with the momentum Marvel Studios had coming off of The Winter Soldier and the actual quality of the film, and it makes sense why Guardians did so well. Ant Man is in a different situation though. Age of Ultron was fun, but compared to the reception the first Avengers got and Marvel's success in 2014, I don't think AOU is going to do for Ant Man what Winter Soldier did for Guardians. I'm strangely excited to see John Slattery back in the role of Howard Stark, which is kind of telling that I don't know what to expect from this movie. It'll do okay in terms of Marvel's standards because of their branding, and if it's good it'll be a hit. If the movie is so-so though, and Fantastic Four is good, I can see FF doing better for the same reason Guardians did better than Spider-man: the talent behind it. Fox is coming off of X-Men Days of Future Past with some key talent from DOFP (Simon Kinberg), promising and established actors whose careers are reaching prime status (including the actor who played Koba in Fox's other hit : DOTPOTA), and Josh Trank. Though much of the controversy surrounding the film is around Trank, he's also another factor that makes a strong case for this film coming out well.
Saying all that, I have to reiterate that I still think it can be an XMFC situation, maybe better. The Matthew Vaughn rumor was debunked by Trank today though. It seems that most of the major stuff to come up about this film has turned out to be fluff. Rumors that like most everything these days start and end on the internet. It's still unknown exactly what happened with Star Wars because the reasons behind Trank being "fired" are based on other rumors that have still yet to be confirmed. You search it, and all you find are anonymous "insiders" and "close sources" but never any actual names. There's talk of re-shoots being a sign of trouble as well, but re-shoot are merely a part of the filming process. Marvel Studios intentionally puts re-shoots into their schedule and budgeting because that's how they work. They're not alone in this.
My prediction: It could all just be scheduling. Disney and Lucasfilm don't want to deal with unknowns. They're bringing Star Wars back in a big way, and they need their players in place. Fox already has a Fantastic Four 2 scheduled, presumably with Trank in place (if not, they won't say that until after the movie comes out). If Trank isn't involved in FF2, at that point these rumors will probably have named sources.
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Post by mr. excellent on Jul 6, 2015 19:57:48 GMT -5
I reread my last post so as not to repeat myself. Long story short, there were points I was trying to make that got lost in the set up. In my prediction, I had meant to say that if Trank is revealed to not be directing FF2, then I would start to take some of these rumors more seriously. I'd start worrying a little more, etc. Well... Rumor has it that Fox wants Bryan Singer to direct Fantastic Four 2: www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/markcassidycbm/news/?a=122481Dammit I hope this isn't true. I really wanted Trank to pull it off. If it is true, no one can say it was scheduling, because that was supposedly the excuse for him leaving Star Wars. So what, he left one dream for another, and then left that one too? Again, it's just rumor at this point, but this is the type of rumor I was worried about.
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Post by BackinBlack on Jul 6, 2015 20:17:00 GMT -5
I saw this. My feeling is that Fox needs to wait and see how Fantastic Four does before making such plans for a sequel. Sony did the same thing with Spider-Man and we know how all that turned out. The difference though is Spidey didn't have as much negativity going in.
On another note, have you guys seen the full body shot of Thing? No pants and no thing. Just another choice I don't understand.
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