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Post by Caveboy0 on Jul 7, 2012 9:43:38 GMT -5
well that's too bad, but i still love it.
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Post by mr. excellent on Jul 7, 2012 12:36:36 GMT -5
The romantic scenes with Peter and Gwen made you cringe? Wow. They were silly sometimes, but I never found them cringe worthy. I saw the film 3 times, in different locations, and those scenes got good reactions every time. That doesn't amount to much, but I haven't really come across any complaints about the romance until now. I will say that I thought the romance would've been developed further too, but with the way the film is constructed it wouldn't have worked. Aside from one or two awkward moments in the score, I've changed my mind about it. I love the piano bits and everything else about it really except the Desperate Housewives sounding parts and the Lizard music.
I agree with you on the other stuff though. I expected more from the story, for Curt Conners especially. It's just that Peter Parker was done so well, I can't help but bump the movie up a notch.
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Post by Caveboy0 on Jul 7, 2012 12:47:56 GMT -5
personally i've never really seen many good romances around. most of the time its in tv shows and just a build up of fans wanting them together. most super hero movies toss in a romance to have a romance. and real romances some times just aren't very perfect like some may seem.
for what ASM was, being young and naive, but also awkward and experimental in a way, first relationship and all, it felt right. teenagers really don't have a lot of reasons to date each other it's learning and growing. maybe it lasts or maybe it falls apart. the point is the events of ASM make them closer. they've gone through tragedy and stuck with each other. even if the romance doesn't work they are closer than most people will get at that age.
only issue i had really with the relationship was gwen getting over peter's fire escape entrance. they cut out the door man scene so it lacked some context. regardless they have good chemistry and i found myself rooting for them at the end.
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Post by brocksir on Jul 7, 2012 21:29:07 GMT -5
Hey all, Brocksir here, long story short, I hadn't visited the old Spidey boards in some time, and having seen the Amazing Spider-Man today, it got me in a very spidey mood, thus I tried to check out the boards again, but then discovered they were apparantly taken down! With some looking around, however, I found this place, and here we are.
Onto the Spidey talk, I thought ASM was, for lack of a better word, Amazing. The characterization was brilliant, and I really felt for everyone. The fights were never so flashy that you didn't know what was going on, and I felt it ended nicely, with everything well wrapped up. Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone had awesome chemistry. Also, I thought Stan Lee's cameo was hands down his greatest. The theater I saw it in was literally packed full, and the audience laughed a bunch throughout, and clapped at the end. I thought it was better than the Avengers, if I'm honest. A great summer flick. Loved it. The only downside I really had to it was just that it felt a bit slow at the start, but all in all the pacing was fine. I know a lot of people had problems with it being too similar to the original Raimi film, and I agree there were alot of parallels, but I liked seeing the subtle tweaks to the origin. I'd recommend it definitely.
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Post by Caveboy0 on Jul 7, 2012 21:40:33 GMT -5
well it's cool we actually got a new member. welcome back to the discussion.
to just comment on the "raimi similarities" i always throw out the comparisons because everything around the similar story is entirely different. i find the tone and filmmaking more important than a radical reinterpretation of plot.
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Post by brocksir on Jul 7, 2012 22:21:24 GMT -5
Ah I agree, and apart from the basic plot outline, the only real thing I noticed that stuck out at me as being similar was I felt Dr. Connors mirrored Norman Osbourn quite a bit, both being big scientist dudes who end up becoming victims of experiments gone wrong. I also noticed when Peter first meets Curt, one of the first things he says is "I've read some of your books", which when he met Norman in SM1 I'm pretty sure he was also all "Wow sir I've read all of your books". Not trying to nitpick at all, like I said I loved the movie, thats just really the only similarity that really jumped out at me.
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Post by Caveboy0 on Jul 7, 2012 22:42:28 GMT -5
even those are rather general. can't all spider-man villains fall under "experiment gone wrong" not picking a fight just find the comparisons a stretch.
best i can say is that the characterization of conner's mentality was a familiar to goblins.
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Post by BackinBlack on Jul 7, 2012 22:49:14 GMT -5
even those are rather general. can't all spider-man villains fall under "experiment gone wrong" Pretty much. Doc Ock, Sandman, Lizard, Electro, Goblin, etc.
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Post by mr. excellent on Jul 8, 2012 1:51:19 GMT -5
Welcome brocsir. I'm shocked that you picked this place, it's a pretty tiny community. Only 4 or 5 people comment on here regularly. Glad to have you though.
I agree with you on the Conners thing. I instantly thought of Willem Dafoe, arguing with his goblin counterpart. I would have preferred that they approached the situation differently, with Lizard deciding to go after Peter. I don't know what per se, just something to replace the Norman Osborn talking to yourself schtick. Perhaps an extra line or two from Lizzy after he discovered Peter's camera would have sufficed.
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Post by Webber3000 on Jul 8, 2012 1:53:04 GMT -5
Ah I agree, and apart from the basic plot outline, the only real thing I noticed that stuck out at me as being similar was I felt Dr. Connors mirrored Norman Osbourn quite a bit, both being big scientist dudes who end up becoming victims of experiments gone wrong. I also noticed when Peter first meets Curt, one of the first things he says is "I've read some of your books", which when he met Norman in SM1 I'm pretty sure he was also all "Wow sir I've read all of your books". Not trying to nitpick at all, like I said I loved the movie, thats just really the only similarity that really jumped out at me. Holy smokes... You joined the forums. I've been watching many of your Let's Plays on YouTube, never thought you'd come here. Welcome!
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Post by brocksir on Jul 8, 2012 16:12:24 GMT -5
Haha, we had some good old times back at the old spidey boards, you can't expect a fella to forget his roots! What actually happened to the old boards anyway? Any warning of them shutting down or a replacement or something like that?
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Post by Webber3000 on Jul 8, 2012 16:27:15 GMT -5
Not even... Some of us had migrated here (forums created by Spazz) before they were shut down because the guides there were being assholes, and we wanted to be able to talk without always being censored for unknown reasons... And then the boards were hacked. We expected them to be put up again, but they never were, so we just started using these as a better replacement. Our community is tiny and the forums aren't exactly super active, but we really like the place and I hope you will too. Oh, and if you're not a fan of the design, you can change the colour scheme in your control panel (profile).
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Post by mr. excellent on Jul 8, 2012 17:01:35 GMT -5
What? You're famous and you didn't tell us? That's gotta have some kind of penalty. j/k So check it out. Spidey sits at 141 million domestically, and 341.2 million world wide. It's 5 til 3pm here in California, and today's numbers haven't come in yet, so I think we're looking pretty good. Suppose the world wide total sits around 600 million by the time TDKR opens up, and I'd say Spider-man has made a respectable amount of money. www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Wolvie09/news/?a=63256At the very least, we're getting a sequel, and we have new story writers. As far as new script people go, I don't think Kloves is coming back, *shakes fist at him*. Sargent might be back, maybe. His wife kicked the reboot off, she probably brought him along for the ride. Now that she has passed away, who knows if he'll stick around for the sequel. Vanderbilt's gone, for whatever reason. Could've sworn he wrote the skeleton for the entire trilogy, or at least the first two, don't know why he left. What I'm saying is, we're getting new blood with the writing for the sequel, and the same director. We should be fine. He talks about not knowing if he'll be back, but that's probably just the fatigue talking. Marc Webb said that when people ask him if he'll be back for a sequel, it's like people asking a woman if she's going to have another kid, right after she's given birth. It's too big of a question to consider at that point in time, that's where he's at right now. He definitely seems proud of what he's done and happy to travel the world to promote it.
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Post by Caveboy0 on Jul 8, 2012 17:08:22 GMT -5
that is excellent honestly.
hope they what ASM special wasn't some happy accident. comes down to talent writers expanding on the plot threads left for the sequel.
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Post by brocksir on Jul 8, 2012 19:27:24 GMT -5
Since seeing it yesterday I seriously just can't get it out of my head. I expected to enjoy it, but god, it seriously blew me away At first, I thought I wasn't gonna be a fan of the ending, with how things were gonna turn out between Pete and Gwen, but when Pete says the line to her in school about the broken promises, that nailed it for me
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