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Post by Caveboy0 on Oct 11, 2012 11:57:12 GMT -5
i think the series plot from here is that peter is investigating oscorp. i like the idea of starting with a villain whether its mysterio or electro or even goblin and just get into the swing of things.
recently i've been getting into metal gear solid and in the third game there are these super powered villains. now they aren't explained out right. they just are there and over the course of the game you can piece it together. i'd like to see that type of storytelling for ASM2 i think it involves a higher skill of writing and just better pacing. We know the world we live in, its super heroes its comic books we can handle a little shock, i always intend my puns.
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Post by Spidey 1923 on Oct 13, 2012 17:58:40 GMT -5
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Post by BackinBlack on Oct 18, 2012 20:30:55 GMT -5
Shailene Woodley all set to play MJ; will have a small part for the second film that will lead a larger role in the third film that will build up Gwen's death: www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=68897On another note, I've thought of a way that Electro could work. We know from the first movie they were looking into cross-species methods to save Norman Osborn. Maybe animals weren't the first sources they were trying to find a cure for. What if they tried to make it to humans could produce their own electricity so they can kill viruses on their own? They reconfigured test subject Max Dillon's DNA, but while the tests worked, they worked too well. Under Osborn's direct orders, they manage to contain him and used as a power source for the OsCorp building, and has been locked up for years. Maybe Peter finds him while investigating OsCorp and accidentally sets him loose (so he would be Electro at the start and Peter does some investigating over him). To add a little more, maybe Max doesn't go bad straight away, and tries to piece his life back together but that doesn't go well, so he takes his frustrations out on OsCorp and Osborn himself (as well as attacking Harry since he's supposed to be in it too). What do you guys think?
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Post by mr. excellent on Oct 18, 2012 21:27:51 GMT -5
At first I was like "I want them to come up with better pseudo-science than they did for the last movie". But after further consideration I thought, "That sounds... like it could really, REALLY work." If they do go that route though, they're going to have to have fun with the pulpy side of it. I mean, yeah, I was hoping this series would have a really strong pseudo-science backbone to it, but I honestly don't think we'll get one. It's there more so than Raimi's series, but it's not like what they did in The Incredible Hulk or Iron Man.
So, since we're not going that way, I think it'd be interesting if they had fun with the sinister organization/experiment gone wrong element like they do in Cabin in the Woods (CITW). I mean, they should take things more seriously than CITW, but there was an element of fun and seriousness to it that was so cool, it was better than taking the realistic approach. Just imagine the fun they could have with Oscorp towers, the imagery they could evoke with Spider-man discovering a world of hidden dangers unbeknownst to the city. It'd be completely badass. I'm all for it.
EDIT: On second thought, I'd prefer that Norman use Dillon for something other than powering Oscorp towers. Something a little more unexpected.
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Post by Spidey 1923 on Oct 20, 2012 23:17:11 GMT -5
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Post by BackinBlack on Oct 21, 2012 0:17:40 GMT -5
lol at the first clip. Pedo-Lizard. ;D
I can see why they'd delete the second clip. Doesn't make much sense with the rest of the movie.
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Post by BackinBlack on Oct 21, 2012 18:05:30 GMT -5
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Post by mr. excellent on Oct 27, 2012 13:51:46 GMT -5
Agreed, but I was disappointed that the alleged Gwen/Peter swinging sequence lasted about a second. They talked about it at comic-con like if it was going to be this really cool and fun scene.
CBM.com also released some spoiler bits from the blu ray commentary recently. Apparently, the sequel is going to cover the origin of the spiders. Here's the thing, I've wanted to do a fan fiction for years on the origin of the spider that bit peter specifically. There's a lot of potential in that back story, what with the existence of other spiders, other test subjects, etc. What if other spiders have escaped and spread their unique abilities to creatures not human? It could be the gift that keeps on giving, a story strand like that. The Star Trek team seems the type to have fun with it, so I hope we get some meat to that origin, since it could connect to other things too.
As far as the Uncle Ben story goes, I'm all for getting Martin Sheen to come back. He was one of the best things about TASM. Show Peter and Uncle Ben going to a ball game, or maybe show Ben introducing Peter to different things like sports, changing the oil in their car, fixing a pipe leak (which would fit nicely with the earlier scenes in TASM). Maybe they can show Peter striking out with a girl and getting advice from Sheen or something, he seems like a guy who'd give good advice about girls.
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Post by Spidey 1923 on Oct 28, 2012 2:39:39 GMT -5
The rest of the deleted scenes have been released including a different version of Uncle Ben's death, Connors visiting Peter, Connors talking to his son and Aunt May taking to Peter: www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=69360Looks like that untold story is never going to see the light of day.
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Post by mr. excellent on Oct 28, 2012 15:03:57 GMT -5
One of the major theories is that the untold story will be spread throughout the next two movies. That being said, there is only one deleted scene that I feel should have been in the film. The scene where Conners goes to Peter's house with Freddy, the 3 legged mouse, that would've contributed to Conner's character nicely. I'm on the fence about the inclusion of the scenes with Ratha. On the one hand, they would've explained what the hell happened to him. On the other hand, they were kind of boring. The inclusion of Billy wouldn't have really done much either.
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Post by BackinBlack on Nov 1, 2012 15:36:08 GMT -5
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Post by mr. excellent on Nov 2, 2012 20:23:53 GMT -5
Marc Webb has released a few statements since that news dropped. He claims they're testing the IMAX format, that they plan on shooting the bulk of the film in NYC this time around, and that they're going to emphasize more of the parents story this time around. At this point, more still doesn't amount to all that much because there wasn't all that much story involving them in TASM, but with the origin out of the way, I'm sure they can make it interesting. www.comicbookmovie.com/spider-man_movies/news/?a=69571
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Post by mr. excellent on Nov 7, 2012 22:44:19 GMT -5
Apparently, Webb cut 28 seconds of POV footage out of the movie. "I remember watching the abbreviated version [of the POV shot] in IMAX when I went to test the IMAX version, and I was like, 'Shit, I should have held on it.’ "There was a real feeling in the IMAX environment that was really great. I learned a lesson then to be reverent of the IMAX experience. Maybe we'll do cuts that are specific for the IMAX in the future, I don't know, but there was something about that environment specifically that is unique and really exciting." -Webb I’m okay with an IMAX cut, so long as the extended scenes are available on DVD and blu-ray, and the overall quality of the regular theatrical cut is unhindered. Going back to those POV shots though, where are they? What happened to the other 28 seconds? They weren’t in any of the deleted scenes I’ve checked out. Anywho, Webb goes on to say, "I tend to think more about depth than stuff coming out at you. Avi Arad, my partner, is always like, 'Have it come out at you!' ... so there's different philosophies, even within our camp. But I don't want people to be thinking about the 3D. I want it to enhance the sensation of feeling, and if it becomes too in your face -- literally -- it pulls you out of the story and becomes a gimmick. We were very, very careful not too push it too far." -Webb That’s nice, but there was probably less than 30 minutes of 3D footage in the movie. The quality of the 3D is up there with the best of the best, but given how little the 3D was actually used, I think Webb needs to do a better job at justifying the use of that tool this time around. "The last movie, Peter's sort of discovering his powers and he's getting gradually better. Peter, in the next movie, is going to be a virtuoso. Spider-Man, from the outset, is a pro. He's an expert, and he's having a blast, and he is just electrifying in terms of his abilities as Spider-Man. That's going to be really fun. I'm really looking forward to a lot of those sequences." Webb also says "There's a lot of pressure coming [Peter Parker's] way, and we'll see how he handles it.” -Webb That part is actually really awesome. I wished they’d had a little bit more fun with Peter developing the webshooters and creating the webfluid. They showed him doing research this time, but I wanted more of that. Regardless, Peter coming back and being a complete badass in movie 2 sounds awesome. His spidery-ness is already cooler IMHO, even if it wasn’t on as big a scale as what Raimi achieved, and it sounds like we’ll be getting a lot more Spidey action. That’s great. Hopefully we’ll get to see more of him doing day-to-day stuff. The practical effects for a Spidey styled street brawl have to be cheaper than doing CGI work on a big bad boss battle, so there’s incentive there. www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=69777 www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=69759
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Post by mr. excellent on May 8, 2023 19:15:25 GMT -5
Can't believe I'm bumping an 11yo + thread, but here we are. Sony's Spider-Man movies are on Disney+ now, and I decided to give Amazing Spider-Man a watch. Or at least, I decided to give the first 30 or so minutes a watch before going to bed. To be honest, I was surprised to discover I've forgotten how good it was. I enjoyed the movie when it came out and was an ardent defender, but I guess it has been a long time. Like, I forgot how homespun it felt, how much it felt like an indie movie with a little bit of a budget. Of course as the movie goes on you start to see where some money was spent but Marc Webb really did go out of his way to make this feel like an intimate look at the life of an orphan who gets these extraordinary powers bestowed on him.
It bums me out to read about how Sally Field felt there was little to nothing to do with her character and she doesn't seem to look back on her work there fondly. Her chemistry with Andrew Garfield and Martin Sheen was great, I loved it, and Martin Sheen's chemistry with Andrew Garfield was great too. Garfield and Stone are magic on screen with each other, they really elevated the material. I found myself even appreciating Rhys Ifans performance as Curt Conners a lot more this time around and even the science fiction employed in the movie. Again, I'm just thinking about the first 30 or so minutes, but there was something special about that. Of course, the movie still didn't turn out to be as good as I think it could have with that director or cast, but I found myself appreciating how focused the story felt compared to today's big, everything must be connected sagas. That's not to say I don't want that either, I still do, but it was kind of refreshing to go back and rediscover this movie that I obsessed on over 11 years ago.
For what it's worth, I think Sony has actually done a great job at finding these indie / cult hero directors who have been able to inject heart and humanity into their Spider-man movies. It doesn't always workout and sometimes they get in their own way (or in the way of the talent they hire rather) but I'm excited to see where Jon Watts takes us next.
Final note: I wasn't impressed with the way James Gunn choreographed the action in the very first Guardians of the Galaxy movie. The movie was awesome so it wasn't anything to get hung up on, but it was something that Gunn noticeably improved on with every subsequent blockbuster he directed since. Jon Watts is someone whose creative powers have been growing as well, albeit, perhaps not on the level of a James Gunn (seriously, Suicide Squad and GOTG Vol.3 are miles ahead of what he did in the first GOTG) but he has still come a long way. I really hope that they can focus on making the action in this next one the best of the bunch and Watts takes the opportunity to do something really special with the character visually. After 20+ years of Spider-Man films, I'm beyond satisfied with the way the web swinging has been portrayed, but Spidey's fighting potential on film has yet to reach its peak IMO.
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Post by mr. excellent on Sept 4, 2023 12:55:11 GMT -5
Today while reading through articles, someone posted a series of screenshots from TASM 2 and Spider-Man: NWH. In it, it shows Max saying he's a nobody, and Garfield's Spider-Man reassuring him that he is in fact a somebody. In No Way Home, one of my favorite smaller moments is Jamie Fox's Electro saying "Back to being a nobody" with Garfield's Spider-Man responding "You were never a nobody". That type of interaction between Garfield's Spider-Man and his supporting characters is what made that version of the character my favorite. I absolutely loved when he'd talk to the New Yorkers as he swung by, went shopping for over the counter antibiotics, or protected a kid from neighborhood bullies. Sometimes it was corny, but Andrew Garfield has a way of making that corniness endearing and captures the essence of Spider-Man's charm very well. I really do hope that Holland is given more of an opportunity, now that he's grown past the Spider boy phase, to really become that voice of encouragement for New York in the same way that the older iterations of the character were. Maybe he has more conversations with the people, gets advice from them, has an actual rapport. JMS wrote some very fun Spider-Man stories where he took the time in those books to show SPider-Man chatting with people on a balcony from 20 stories up, enjoying a hotdog, etc. Hope to see that again.
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