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Post by mr. excellent on May 14, 2016 18:38:21 GMT -5
Saw that, kind of bummed. I dunno if I'll agree with the consensus or where the final consensus will lay. Hopefully early word isn't indicative of our feelings toward it.
On a slightly different topic, I dunno if I've vented about Jennifer Lawrence here, but I've been kind of frustrated with the thought of her performance/attitude in/regarding this franchise. Not that she's "the problem" with this movie, but in the trailers she's been sort of meh, in the interviews she's been unenthusiastic, and in the latest clip "Raven comes home" she's pretty wooden. Lawrence is an amazingly talented actress, and I acknowledge that. However, I've lost some respect for her in the way that she handles working on X-Men. She's getting millions of dollars to play a character, that the writers seem to have crafted in her own image (which was a mistake), and she comes off as though it's a burden to be in the role.
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Post by BackinBlack on May 14, 2016 21:39:09 GMT -5
While I don't put much stock in RT anymore after BvS, I've been following the Tomatometer and it's been climbing up, at 59% now, so it may very well get fresh status soon. It reminds me of how Amazing Spider-Man 2 got a fresh rating but went rotten after more reviews came in and the consensus actually changed, so Apocalypse could be the reverse of that. With less than 2 weeks away from release, things could very well change.
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Post by Webber3000 on May 27, 2016 22:51:47 GMT -5
Such a disappointing film... I felt like I was watching the original Transformers. (I know it seems I've been very negative lately, but I haven't made my post in the Civil War thread yet )
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Post by BackinBlack on May 29, 2016 22:16:35 GMT -5
I enjoyed it. It does have its problems (underdeveloped Angel and Psylocke, the thing they did with Moira that was really pointless imo), but I liked it. DOFP is still the best, but this is a close second. It was the X-Men movie I expected, but I think there's room to improve for the next one. We can't deny though that the best parts were with Quicksilver (I've had "Sweet Dreams" stuck in my head ever since) and Wolverine (I geeked out there as much as Batman's warehouse fight scene in BvS; seriously, best Wolverine moment out of all the movies). I'd say this film was a satisfying conclusion to what began in First Class.
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Post by Webber3000 on May 30, 2016 0:38:52 GMT -5
I get that these two scenes were a lot of fun, but is that enough to call Apocalypse a good film? What else makes you think it is even remotely good?
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Post by mr. excellent on May 30, 2016 2:19:31 GMT -5
I'm planning on watching it sometime this week or coming weekend. Have a feeling I'll enjoy it. We shall see.
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Post by mr. excellent on Jun 5, 2016 20:57:58 GMT -5
I really enjoyed this movie. It had its problems, but those problems didn’t ruin the experience for me. That opening scene in Egypt was a lot of fun, as was Apocalypse using Charles with the aid of Cerebro to launch everyone’s nuclear weapons into space (awesome!) I really, really enjoyed all of the scenes in the school and the dynamic between Nightcrawler, Scott, and Jean as the outsiders that everyone’s afraid of. It was the first time Xavier’s school truly felt like a school to me. The Wolverine scene was fun, and the final battle wasn’t as big a letdown to me as it was to others. The Quicksilver scene was a lot of fun, and Quicksilver in general was done so well, he’s an easy favorite. I love Evan Peters as Pietro Maximoff. While Civil War was a better film for me, somehow, I was more entertained by this one. I don't know what the next X-Men film is going to be about, but I'm damn excited about the next movie if the characters in the final scene (in the danger room!) are going to be front and center. Too bad this film isn't doing so hot in the U.S. I'll definitely be seeing it again and could easily recommend it as fun escapism.
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Post by Webber3000 on Jun 8, 2016 10:10:00 GMT -5
How do you guys feel about the first Transformers film?
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Post by mr. excellent on Jun 9, 2016 3:36:31 GMT -5
As a non-transformers aficionado, especially back in 2007, I really enjoyed the first transformers movie. While there was Bay’s (now signature) juvenile humor, at that point it hadn’t worn out its welcome to the extent it has today. Even the more questionable bits such as the Transformers peeing on people didn’t ruin the movie for me. Looking back, it’s hard to see the film the same way now. I don’t hold it in as high esteem as 2007, say, but I think the Tomatometer has it right. 2007 was a year of disappointing trilogy closers (the Die Hard with Kevin Smith also came out that year). Transformers was a breath of fresh air.
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Post by mr. excellent on Jun 28, 2016 16:34:16 GMT -5
I read an article a week ago about Fox being happy with Apocalypse's numbers. I think it was an interview with Simon Kinberg, and as with most of the articles I browse, I found it at comicbookmovie.com. Anyway, I appreciate that they're not disappointed with their box office numbers for this one. So often these days, you hear tell of studios that consider movies that performed admirably as minor to major disappointments. In recent times there was Sony's TASM 2, the next year it was Age of Ultron, this year it was Batman v Superman. While I understand the reasoning and the story behind all of those, it's still nice to have a change in narrative. Would I have liked Apocalypse to have earned more money? Yes. Am I happy that Fox won't be throwing in the towel? Certainly. I'm just as excited about the future of the X-Men now than I was when I watched X2 (even though I think X2 is a better movie). Anyway, let's keep them coming. I think it's always smart to start with something lower budget in mind. There's so much social commentary that this franchise is designed for that I think they can get really creative with it. Of course I want to see powers involved, but characterization needs to take precedence so that I actually care who's doing what.
Another thing: Can we get a new director? Listen, my hat's off to Bryan Singer and his involvement going forward isn't a bad thing. He managed to bring a certain quality to all the X films he helmed that helped the movies stand on their own. Going back to the 60's was a bold move, and even though Vaughn directed First Class, that movie had Singer's finger prints all over it. However, I understand why many a comic fan takes umbrage with his interpretations of the character, and their complaints are valid. Beyond that, it's clear that he's a little stuck in the past on certain things. His traditional opening montage where he has the camera following a strand of DNA all over the place is played out. His propensity for putting not so subtle X's everywhere is getting a little silly (minor nitpick, but we're 6 movies in now. Come on man.) In general, I think he's already explored the characterization of certain characters he's interested in as deep as he can. Case in point: Magneto, Wolverine, and Professor X. While Michael Fassbender had plenty to chew on in Apocalypse, I couldn't help but feel that we'd already seen it before. The same goes for Professor X, and at this point we're all happy to see Logan go on his own separate adventures. I do think there's more that can be done with all these characters, but I want someone else's perspective on it.
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Post by Webber3000 on Jul 16, 2016 14:18:35 GMT -5
Yes! Please bring in a new director! The only really good X-Men movie, in my opinion, is First Class - and it's not just good, mind you, it's amazing! My second favourite might be The Wolverine, which was just alright, and also not directed by Bryan Singer. I wouldn't say he's garbage, but he's definitely not a director I enjoy. I feel he should be leading action B-movies instead of toying which such solid source material. He misses X-Men's point every time. The source material is perfectly set up to explore relevant and topical themes, and Singer falls flat every time. The old X-Men films don't live up to today's standards nearly as well as Raimi's Spider-Man films do, and every time Singer comes back, he tries to recapture X2's feel. He's not the only bad director to have caused damage to the X-Men franchise, but he's the only one who's respected for it. We need more Matthew Vaughns and fewer Bryan Singers, if you ask me.
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Post by mr. excellent on Jul 16, 2016 15:08:03 GMT -5
I'd really like Joss Whedon to direct an X-Men movie, which is weird because I don't want him to do any more Marvel Studios films (neither does, he apparently). To be honest, I think he would've been better for X-Men than he was for Avengers to begin with. Yeah he read every Avengers comic up until a certain year, but he actually WROTE a solid stretch of X-Men comics (like, 30 issues or so) and has shown to be adept at doing ensemble pieces.
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Post by BackinBlack on Jul 16, 2016 19:47:14 GMT -5
I'd really like Joss Whedon to direct an X-Men movie, which is weird because I don't want him to do any more Marvel Studios films (neither does, he apparently). To be honest, I think he would've been better for X-Men than he was for Avengers to begin with. Yeah he read every Avengers comic up until a certain year, but he actually WROTE a solid stretch of X-Men comics (like, 30 issues or so) and has shown to be adept at doing ensemble pieces. If Fox ever does a reboot, I think Whedon would be a good fit.
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