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Post by mr. excellent on Oct 21, 2017 20:16:46 GMT -5
I really liked Venom from Spectacular. They gave Eddie Brock more history with Peter and Flash in a way that felt natural, and it made his hatred of Spider-man feel more authentic. It was more of a betrayal of two close friends, and that feels more genuine to me than what we got in the 90s show and even the comics.
To be completely honest, I'm actually really into the comics version of Flash Thompson Venom. If they do a movie, I'd almost rather have Eddie Brock be someone who is military and is given the suit for special Black Ops type missions. So, in other words, if Eddie Brock is going to be the proper Venom, I kind of hope they merge the stories of those two characters and just give it to Brock. Especially because the kid who plays Flash in Spider-man Homecoming isn't really ideal to play that kind of character. Don't get me wrong, he is an actor, and even the kid they have playing Flash now has really transformed from his 'Perks of Being a Teenage Wallflower" days, but still. He's always had that heroic jawline, and anyone can put on muscle. Tony Revolori was cast to be the opposite of that, to sort of invert that trope, and even if the kid did bulk up I just don't want to see his Flash Thompson go thru that kind of transformation.
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Post by BackinBlack on Oct 29, 2017 18:03:45 GMT -5
Thoughts on the latest episode: * It's crazy to think that this show could take such a miniscule and irritating character like Screwball (remember when SpOck gave her and Jester a serious beatdown? Good times.) and give her some depth, even if they did make her Liz Allan. I expected to hate this episode because of that character, but I was pleasantly surprised. * I think Gwen knows Peter's Spider-Man. I may be reading too much into it, but she didn't really question why Peter had a flashdrive with Hammerhead files on it when he said it was a "school project". Besides that, Gwen's a smart girl in this version, and probably smarter than Peter. On another note, I sense the romance still slowly arising. I just got a warm feeling when Peter said "I think what I was missing was you"; it'd be hard to miss the double meaning there.
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Post by mr. excellent on Oct 30, 2017 1:22:20 GMT -5
We had, what was it... 6 seasons of Ultimate Spider-man and virtually no romance in the series for Spider-man or almost any character. I'm happy to have romance in a Spider-man show again. This Gwen has been pretty good so far.
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Post by BackinBlack on Jan 14, 2018 19:46:18 GMT -5
So Spider-Man's back next weekend, and it not only looks like they'll be running through the rest of the season within the next month, they're all multi-parters: "The Rise of Doc Ock" 4 parter, "Spider-Island" 5 parter, and "The Hobgoblin" 2 parter. Couple things to note. 1) There should be at least one more episode down the line to make 26 for the season, unless it's the "Origins" compilation episode that was supposed to air back in August but never did. 2) I guess we should have expected it from the flaming sword, but yeah, we're getting Hobgoblin first again. I just wonder how they'll handle it. I mean, the most likely scenario is that it's Harry, but I feel it would be too likely.
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Post by mr. excellent on Jan 14, 2018 20:20:01 GMT -5
I agree, mostly because I don't want Harry to be a tragic character in this just yet. I like his friendship with Peter, they're doing a good job with it. The only thing that's ruining it is this forced vendetta against Spider-man, which is still pretty unfounded up until this point.
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Post by BackinBlack on Jan 14, 2018 23:42:50 GMT -5
Frankly, I'm just glad they didn't make him Venom again. But on Hobgoblin, if it's not Harry, I really hope it's not Norman, otherwise, why wouldn't he just be Green Goblin? The only other thing I can think of is them introducing Phil Urich as another Oz Academy student and steals Harry's Goblin gear.
As for Harry's Spidey hatred, it is somewhat founded, but not really justly. He did think he sabotaged the experiment that got him suspended, and he did think Spider-Man was trying to pull him into the fight with the Spider-Slayer. What really didn't help things though was seeing black suit Spidey attack the innocent Adrian Toomes when Alistair was using the Vulture suit. But yeah, they basically transferred the "Spider-Man's a Menace" mindset from Jameson to Harry.
On a related note, it still bugs me that in the second episode Harry denied that his bomb was a bomb, when it was clearly a bomb. They should really explain that when the time comes.
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Post by mr. excellent on Jan 15, 2018 15:50:28 GMT -5
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Post by mr. excellent on Jan 15, 2018 16:46:13 GMT -5
I'm okay with the Avengers and Guardians of the Galaxy stuff being cancelled, but the Spider-man show had room to grow. I guess I'm just not sure that they'll actually make a show worth replacing the one we currently have, which is only half way through its freshman season. I mean, if they had a better track record with regard to the new stuff they put out that replaces the old guard, I'd be a little less worried. At the end of the day, I'm not super invested in even the Spider-man show, I just feel like it's pulling the plug on it too soon when Ultimate Spider-man got like, 6 seasons. At the very least, they can wait to make a decision on the new Spider-man show (which is their newest I believe) until after the season ends.
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Post by BackinBlack on Jan 15, 2018 19:07:02 GMT -5
I was just about to post this. I gave up on Avengers at the start of this season, so I don't care there; just got tired of the constant mediocrity. I still like Guardians, but it doesn't have the same spirit it once did, although I still love their own use of classic music. Both those shows are at least getting fifth and third seasons, respectively. As for Spidey, even though a second season hasn't been confirmed, I'd be surprised if they weren't already working on one. If it does just last one season, that's really sad. I mean, they gave Ultimate a second season before it even aired.
But there could be a silver lining. There's probably a restructuring happening in the wake of the Fox deal, so maybe we'll get a more cohesive Marvel animated universe, and one that could be on par with shows like Spectacular, W&TXM, and EMH and not worry about synching up with the MCU. Plus, we could get a new X-Men show out of this. I'm getting ahead of myself, but sometimes you gotta be hopeful.
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Post by BackinBlack on Jan 24, 2018 14:39:50 GMT -5
Good news, everyone! Spider-Man will be back for a second season (and possibly last if the reports about all the Marvel toons ending are true). www.superherohype.com/news/410801-marvels-spider-man-season-2-returning-to-disney-xdThe second season of Marvel’s Spider-Man follows Peter Parker in his sophomore year as a more experienced Super Hero and a more confident student at what was once the intimidating Horizon High School. Picking up where season one left off – in an epic showdown against Doc Ock, the Sinister Five, and Hobgoblin – season two will offer much higher stakes for both Peter and his heroic alter-ego, Spider-Man. He’ll also learn how to navigate new responsibilities like working at his local newspaper The Daily Bugle while enduring Doc Ock’s series of obstacles in the villain’s attempt to get rid of Spider-Man once and for all. The action-packed season will continue to touch on Spidey’s relatable themes, including friendship, loyalty and heroism, while staying true to its signature sense of comedy. Kind of sounds like it'll be even better than the first, especially since it looks like we'll have Jameson on board. If there's one thing I'm hoping for, it's a Superior Spider-Man adaptation, even if it's brief.
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Post by mr. excellent on Jan 24, 2018 20:55:30 GMT -5
Is it really a season 2 though? The episode synopses were up on Wikipedia only shortly after the Screwball episode. It seemed more like a midseason break than anything. I say "break" instead of "finale" because the Screwball episode felt more like a filler episode. Granted, I enjoyed it, but I thought the episode where Harry uses his fire sword was a more fitting bookend. That, and there were only... what? Thirteen episodes to start out? Spectacular's season 1 also had only 13, but the story did build to a climax and felt like a fitting close to that chapter... but I digress. Looking forward to "season 2". ;P
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Post by BackinBlack on Feb 20, 2018 11:51:58 GMT -5
So season one's in the bag. Here are my quick thoughts on each multi-parter, although if you think about it, each story led into the other, so it was just one long story arc. Rise of Doc Ock: While each episode did have progression for Ock's transition to a villain, I don't think it was warranted for a four parter since Ock wasn't always the focus of each one. That said, it did show Ock's potential for a hero and I think there's definite set-up for a Superior adaptation in season two. I wish his final suit would have been green instead of blue though. Spider-Island: Good adaptation of the comic story even with its differences, and it was kind of cool to see Peter in action outside of the Spider-Man suit for awhile. I only wish they would have confirmed before the finale if Anya retained her spider-powers or if she knew Peter was Spider-Man too. Before I talk about Hobgoblin, I need to address Harry. It was at the beginning at this stretch of episodes that I think I started to feel how excellent did about his vendetta against Spider-Man. Harry's hatred had reached idiotic and straight-up asshole levels. It started to get annoying, but then I realized something about Harry's character across all media: he has never been a rational person. Think about it: in most comics, shows, and movies, Harry always follows in his father's footsteps to become a Goblin, knowing full well his father was a villain and targeted his best friend in misguided revenge. So maybe his attitude towards Spider-Man in this show does fit with his overall character. However, it's that dynamic that makes for some of the most dramatic scenes in these first two stories. Now for the Hobgoblin story itself: I like the detour they made with Harry becoming the Hobgoblin as a hero rather than a villain. However, much like how I felt this series started similarly to how Spectacular did, this season wraps up the show much like how Spectacular finished, with a Harry/Norman Goblin twist. I mean, it was a twist I saw coming a mile away that it wasn't even that surprising. Hell, they kind of hit it note for note when it came to Norman's manipulations and his fate. The only saving grace is Harry wasn't as forgiving for Norman's actions and where his character ends up is better off than he was in Spectacular, though I must question how old Harry is in this show if he's put in charge of OsCorp afterwards. Plus, it sets up for Norman becoming the Green Goblin next season. As I've said before, this show is no Spectacular, but at least it's not Ultimate. It definitely tries to makes its own mark as a Spider-Man series, and sometimes the choices they make don't always work. Nonetheless, I look forward to when the show comes back for its second and probably last season and what it has in store. In addition to a Superior adaptation, I'm also hoping for more development for Peter and Gwen's relationship (which took a backseat for the remainder of the season) and we have Eddie Brock debut as Venom (if Peter's going to be working at the Bugle next season, that's good set-up for Eddie to come in).
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Post by mr. excellent on Mar 20, 2018 2:58:47 GMT -5
Is it really a season 2 though? The episode synopses were up on Wikipedia only shortly after the Screwball episode. It seemed more like a midseason break than anything. I say "break" instead of "finale" because the Screwball episode felt more like a filler episode. Granted, I enjoyed it, but I thought the episode where Harry uses his fire sword was a more fitting bookend. That, and there were only... what? Thirteen episodes to start out? Spectacular's season 1 also had only 13, but the story did build to a climax and felt like a fitting close to that chapter... but I digress. Looking forward to "season 2". ;P So, I have to apologize to you BIB. I was clearly confused. I'm currently on Spider-Island part 4. Looking forward to finishing the season this week.
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Post by BackinBlack on May 23, 2018 20:57:11 GMT -5
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Post by BackinBlack on May 29, 2018 12:19:37 GMT -5
JK Simmons as Jonah and Eddie Brock is Venom. All is right.
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