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Post by mr. excellent on Nov 28, 2015 3:00:49 GMT -5
Flattery will get you everywhere... I think.
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Post by mr. excellent on Nov 29, 2015 18:39:06 GMT -5
So there's talk about how Marvel plans to market this movie. "Will they or won't they reveal Spider-man?" is the question on many of our minds. Comparisons are being drawn to how Marvel held back on the Vision footage so as to save the character for the film as a final surprise. Leaked promotional art sort of spoiled the surprise, but all in all they managed to keep a good lock on the character. The more current comparison is being drawn between Star Wars' add campaign and how they're saving footage of Luke Skywalker.
For what it's worth, I hope Marvel doesn't go this route. Sure, Marvel made a big deal out of the new parameters of their partnership with Sony. It was all over the internet, including sites like yahoo and msn. That said, the average movie goer still isn't paying attention to that stuff. If Marvel doesn't continue to put it out there, the general movie going public will be surprised when Spider-man shows up in the movie. While surprises are great and all, I don't think this is something they need to hold back. That said, I do think it'll be good for the 2nd wave of promos. It'll definitely catch people's attention while movies like Deadpool and Batman v. Superman are in theaters. Waiting for the final wave of promos will be a missed opportunity IMO. It'll still get people's attention, but if you can keep the hype building all the way until your movie comes out I think you're better off. Unveiling Marvel's version of Spider-man and showing his interaction with the rest of the Avengers is the way to do it. Now, if Batman v. Superman wasn't coming out in March, then they could totally save Spider-man for the movie because they have Black Panther, and more importantly Iron Man as the selling point in a Captain America centric movie. They don't have that luxury though.
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Post by mr. excellent on Dec 5, 2015 17:14:15 GMT -5
Triple post time. Rumor has it that Bucky's arm may be made of or partially with Vibranium. If you watch a few trailer rewinds or "x things you missed" videos, you'll see a case begin to formalize itself. For example, some of the current speculation is that there are scenes in the trailer that could be showing Cap finding an old Hydra base to do research on Winter Soldier's origins. While there, they could find Zola's designs that include use of vibranium for Winter soldier's prosthetic. A vibranium arm would enable Bucky to do damage to Tony's new suit, which is said to be his most powerful yet (probably excluding the Hulkbuster suit). If you think back to the Winter Soldier, Bucky punched Cap's shield with full force and it did no damage to the hand or arm whatsoever. While Marvel has played a little fast and loose with what the shield is able to do, it's possible that there is an actual explanation for his arm being so durable. In short, this could be a cool reveal, and could also set up Panther as someone Tony would rely on to take out Bucky. Especially now that Bucky is developing a nasty habit of ripping arc reactors out of people's chests.
On a side note, I do hope that Tony is holding back. Getting punched repeatedly with Vibranium, even by a couple super soldiers, shouldn't be enough to take him down in the "bleeding edge". His suits have evolved and become more powerful as the movies have gone on, yet they're not as durable as they were in the 1st two movies where the only thing that could damage them was arc reactor tech. They should fix that in this movie. Cap shouldn't be able to beat Tony with brawn, not even by way of a WWE style beat down.
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Post by Webber3000 on Dec 6, 2015 0:33:10 GMT -5
So there's talk about how Marvel plans to market this movie. "Will they or won't they reveal Spider-man?" is the question on many of our minds. Comparisons are being drawn to how Marvel held back on the Vision footage so as to save the character for the film as a final surprise. Leaked promotional art sort of spoiled the surprise, but all in all they managed to keep a good lock on the character. The more current comparison is being drawn between Star Wars' add campaign and how they're saving footage of Luke Skywalker. For what it's worth, I hope Marvel doesn't go this route. Sure, Marvel made a big deal out of the new parameters of their partnership with Sony. It was all over the internet, including sites like yahoo and msn. That said, the average movie goer still isn't paying attention to that stuff. If Marvel doesn't continue to put it out there, the general movie going public will be surprised when Spider-man shows up in the movie. While surprises are great and all, I don't think this is something they need to hold back. That said, I do think it'll be good for the 2nd wave of promos. It'll definitely catch people's attention while movies like Deadpool and Batman v. Superman are in theaters. Waiting for the final wave of promos will be a missed opportunity IMO. It'll still get people's attention, but if you can keep the hype building all the way until your movie comes out I think you're better off. Unveiling Marvel's version of Spider-man and showing his interaction with the rest of the Avengers is the way to do it. Now, if Batman v. Superman wasn't coming out in March, then they could totally save Spider-man for the movie because they have Black Panther, and more importantly Iron Man as the selling point in a Captain America centric movie. They don't have that luxury though. While I am excited for BvS, I have a bad feeling about it. Although it's way too early to tell whether it'll be good, I do think there is a chance it does poorly with the critics, and perhaps not so well financially (by its standards, of course). Having a good surprise in a film, I believe, improves its reception and can thus improve its overall success. If Marvel bets on the fact that BvS doesn't sweep a significant part of its potential audience away, in my opinion, they don't need to show off Spidey before Civil War comes out.
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Post by mr. excellent on Dec 6, 2015 16:25:40 GMT -5
Yeah, you're probably right. I feel the same way about BvS too, which is not the way I'd hoped to be feeling about now. Unlike you though, I don't think the special effects looked very good. I'm not even talking about Doomsday. I'm talking about the Metropolis scene. That scene in trailer 2 looked about as real as it gets, but then they added more of it into the 3rd trailer and it looked messy to me. It could look much different on the big screen, sometimes that's the case, but I dunno.
Back to Civil War, this could be Marvel's best movie to date. I'm dying to see Cap's evolution, especially as a fighter because I'm a simpleton like that. :S
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Post by Webber3000 on Dec 6, 2015 18:21:46 GMT -5
Yeah, you're probably right. I feel the same way about BvS too, which is not the way I'd hoped to be feeling about now. Unlike you though, I don't think the special effects looked very good. I'm not even talking about Doomsday. I'm talking about the Metropolis scene. That scene in trailer 2 looked about as real as it gets, but then they added more of it into the 3rd trailer and it looked messy to me. It could look much different on the big screen, sometimes that's the case, but I dunno. I agree it didn't look particularly real, but that's what I liked. The scene wherein Batman grapples away from Superman's heat vision with lightning striking in the background looked phenomenal. If they polish some details here and there, I think the movie can feel fantastic, at least in terms of eye candy. I just don't feel that will be enough though. Hopefully we're both ultimately proven wrong and the movie kicks ass; I'd love to enjoy it!
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Post by mr. excellent on Dec 6, 2015 19:10:05 GMT -5
True enough. I definitely don't mind a heightened reality. When TASM 2 came out, one of the things it was praised for was its brighter, more colorful visuals. The way that Webb and his cinematographer composed the action sequences arguably out shined every Spider-man action sequence that came before it. They sort of abandoned parkour and actual wire/web swinging in favor of allowing Spider-man do things that only a computer could simulate, and for me it was one of the film's highlights. If Snyder manages to bring that to BvS, I'll be thrilled. He did that with Watchmen, which to me is still one of the most visually striking superhero movies ever made (Mars sequence and all). He did it again in Man of Steel, whose special effects have been judged harshly in part because of their abundance and not due to their actual quality. BvS has yet another distinct look to it that is his, yet different, so I'm definitely excited see how it pans out... Civil War!!!
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Post by mr. excellent on Dec 28, 2015 21:18:29 GMT -5
www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=129341So, huge bombshell of a rumor came out today. As the story goes, The movie begins and ends with a funeral. The opening funeral is that of Peggy Carter, whereas the film's conclusion entails a funeral scene for none other than Cap himself. Toward the end of the film, Cap agrees to a deal with the U.S. government where he surrenders himself in exchange for complete amnesty for those who aligned themselves with him. As he's turning himself in to government custody, he is assassinated. Allegedly, there will be an epilogue where either Sharon Carter, Sam Wilson, or Bucky Barnes adopts the mantle and shield. The 3 potential conclusions are supposedly meant to keep the audience in the dark as to who the next Captain America will be in Cap's absence.
So, what do you guys think? I think this would be an incredible way to end the film. To be honest, I'd rather Cap not die because I like the other rumor circulating that he'll have a brief appearance in Jon Watt's Spider-man reboot. If this is to be true, I'd rather him be alive. Spider-man has never really been full on mentored by Cap before, and doing it first in the movies would be a great way to differentiate this version of Spidey. Then again, there's also the rumor that none of the original Avengers will be in Infinity War part 1, so ya never know.
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Post by mr. excellent on Jan 6, 2016 1:34:35 GMT -5
It's that time again. Rumor has it that Paul Rudd's Scott Lang will appear as Giant Man in Civil War. So far, there's not much to go on, but here's what we know. Funko Pop Vinylz and Marvel Mini-Mates both have a Giant Man toy in their toy line up. Also, when talking about Avengers Infinity War and filming those entirely in Imax, the Russo's stated that there would be multiple characters that are much taller than regular humans. The directors are setting out to make the most of the Imax format to bring these characters to life. Looking back to Civil War, they've mentioned that there is one or two scenes in particular that have massive scale/scope. Could it be that the Russo's need the larger format to really capture everyone in action without having to scrunch them in one tiny space? Could part of the reason for that be the inclusion of characters like Giant Man? All I know is, if Spider-man is included in that roughly 15 minutes of Imax footage in Civil War, he'd better be swinging.
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Post by Webber3000 on Jan 6, 2016 12:28:31 GMT -5
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Post by mr. excellent on Jan 8, 2016 19:06:54 GMT -5
Could we be getting our first look at Spider-Man next week? www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=129753Granted, that's not the emphasis of the article, but definitely an interesting tid bit nonetheless. They're saying stuff that's already been said before in terms of grounding the character. I am curious to see where Peter's living though, for sure. Of course, his interaction with other heroes is the best part. With regard to fighting, the Russos have stated that they're trying to up the intensity yet again in the action we see in this movie, just as they did for Winter Soldier. Definitely excited to see what they do with Spider-man, especially since he's supposed to be comic relief along with Ant Man. Will we see Jackie Chan's brand of action humor minus the kung fu?
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Post by mr. excellent on Feb 7, 2016 23:28:47 GMT -5
Civil War pre-superbowl spot:
Little disappointed that Disney kept Spider-man out of the Civil War marketing, but not saying I disapprove (in spite of what I said a few posts back). It would've been nice to have gotten a final hashtag: #spider-man. That said, that Iron Man glove was EPIC. I always get pumped whenever a new Iron Man gadget is revealed, but these suits keep getting closer and closer to a second skin. Pause the video as the material covers Tony's hand, the material looks like liquid metal, but with a grainy quality. I've been waiting for them to top the suitcase suit up scene, and it looks like they may have done it this time*. Tony is getting so damn powerful, it's nothing short of amazing. Also worth mentioning is that we get the best look yet of Ant Man's new suit in the clip.
Then of course, we found out just why Marvel's cross promotional deal with Coke cost $10 million.
I was in a house full of raging football fans who had good money on the game, and they all stopped talking to watch the commercial. If they weren't going to promote Civil War, it was certainly smart to put Hulk front and center to keep him in everyone's consciousness.
*Iron Man 3 was close for me, but it was a little too CGI for my tastes compared to how well they pulled off the look in the first 2.
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Post by mr. excellent on Mar 9, 2016 20:02:03 GMT -5
www.comicbookmovie.com/captain_america/captain_america_civil_war/rumor-spider-man-will-feature-heavily-a131895Rumor has it tomorrow's trailer will have Spider-man in it. Problem is, the rumor is from Latino Review. Not to be a "hater", but Latino Review has called it wrong so many times when it comes to these big scoops. The people over at Collider Movie Talk have defended people like El Mayimbe who work at Latino Review and get these types of scoops. It's hard to call honestly, because I do respect the people at Collider and find them to be very honest in how they feel about all things regarding movies. However, I've seen Latino Review call it wrong too many times with these big stories to trust them. It's not really worth debating, since we'll know within 24 hours, but I wouldn't hold my breath for seeing Spider-man tomorrow. If we do, I highly doubt the trailer will be Spider-man centric, as none of their marketing has used the character thus far, and based on everything I've read, it would conflict with the narrative that's being spun. WB putting Doomsday in the 2nd to last trailer is the best example I can think of. Optimistically, the Doomsday aspect of Batman v. Superman may factor into the main story very well, but from a marketing standpoint it didn't fit in with the rest of their material. Now, I've said it before, Marvel doesn't need to hold Spider-Man back. They gain nothing by surprising the GA by keeping him out of the commercials. BUT, if they're going to use him tomorrow, they have to be careful not to throw too much of a curve ball, and I think that's exactly what they'd be doing if they release a Spidey centric trailer with Spidey front and center.
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Post by BackinBlack on Mar 10, 2016 7:08:41 GMT -5
I would be fine if they just showed Spidey at the very end making a quip like "Come on guys, can't we all just get along?" or something.
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Post by BackinBlack on Mar 10, 2016 13:11:35 GMT -5
SPIDEEEEEEEEY!!!! On the positive side, it's classic Spidey, reminding me of John Romita. Plus the eyes move now. But is it just me or does it seem like he's not really there?
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