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Post by Webber3000 on Mar 10, 2016 16:42:22 GMT -5
What do you mean Blacky?
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Post by BackinBlack on Mar 10, 2016 17:08:58 GMT -5
At least in the still images, he looks more CGI than in there in person.
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Post by Webber3000 on Mar 10, 2016 19:59:51 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree, though the suit looks pretty nice! I think their VFX need some polishing. I'm excited to see the live action version of the suit.
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Post by mr. excellent on Mar 10, 2016 22:21:36 GMT -5
I was wrong, and I'm thrilled!!! You got what you wanted Blacky!
The suit looks incredibly silly next to such polished costumes, but I think that's the point and I really dig what they're going for. The Spidey voice even sounds childlike for the first time, which is awesome. Spider-man wasn't as tonally jarring as he could've been, but it was still a bit weird seeing him with everyone. My anticipation could not have possibly been sated, so that's on me. For what it's worth, I don't think he was CGI'd into the location. Screen Rant released their special set visit from last year two days ago because the embargo was finally lifted. They mentioned seeing Spider-man on set, but weren't allowed to talk about it further until today in follow up articles because Disney's reps were only allowing them to release certain interviews in the days leading up to this trailer dropping. They even mentioned how they'd try to talk about Spider-man to the actors during said set visit, and the actors just pretended they had no idea what the media was talking about. "Spider-man? Where? Wouldn't it be great if he really was in the movie?" type of funny business, which is awesome. The mo-fo is wearing a bright red leotard, but everyone is being paid to act like he's not there.
Loved the trailer, the action, the tone, music, and Spider-man. I'm convinced this movie will be the biggest superhero movie of the year (as good as the others look). Didn't enjoy the trailer as much as the most recent Suicide Squad release, but the promise of this movie takes the cake for me. I mean seriously, Tony telling Cap to "stay down" and Cap coming back with "I can do this all day". Emotions guys, emotions. Last thing I'll say is that they still have a lot of work to do on the characters CGI when it comes to the flying sequences. Apparently, one of the things SR noticed on their set visit is that Marvel isn't pushing for practical effects on the Iron Man suits the way Jon Favreau did. That depresses me a bit, because ever since Iron Man 3, Iron Man's suits have not looked quite as authentic. Hell, even Joss Whedon did a better job realizing the suits in Avengers than he did in his own follow up in Age of Ultron. The Russos will get it done though.
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Post by brotherandbassist on Mar 16, 2016 15:06:02 GMT -5
I'm pretty stoked for this. I just hate that I have to way until May to see it. For some reason I got it's release date mixed up with the Batman vs. Superman release date
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Post by mr. excellent on Apr 9, 2016 15:17:36 GMT -5
So, Twitter reactions… gotta tell ya, they’re a lot of fun and I’m excited they came out so early. Meaningless as they tend to be with regard to overall critical reception and one’s actual opinion of a movie (after having seen it one’s self) , it’s nice to have that positivity. Beyond that, ALL but one of the things I wanted to read were present. Here they are in order of importance (IMO of course): 1) It’s a good – great movie. It works as a sequel to WS and to AOU 2) The Russos raised the bar they set with WS in terms of action. 3) Spider-man is amazing. I keep reading about how good that airport scene is, which makes me want to see it NOW!!! There was one troubling comment that said the rest of the movie fumbles in trying to live up to the greatness in that scene. Hopefully, that isn’t true. I am a little disappointed to read that villain, Baron Zemo is a disappointment. Also, it sounds as though the story is okay, but is playing second fiddle to character work and chemistry. Maybe others will feel differently, but I thought this one had enough material to inspire a really cool plot. We shall see soon enough.
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Post by mr. excellent on Apr 17, 2016 14:11:08 GMT -5
I've read most of the reviews on rottentomatoes, and all of them are GLOWING, except for the one rotten out of 18. This bodes very well, because though I've seen this ratio of positive to negative before, I haven't seen a movie that is so highly praised within the review tank later. Usually, the reviews are middling when that happens. One thing I've continued to read about is that the overall action is still much better in this one, so my fear about the rest of the movie's action paling in comparison have been put to rest for now. I've also gained further context for just how good that action scene is. I read the Forbes review, watched the Schmoes Know, JoBlow, John Campea, and read at least 2 others that all claim this is the greatest action sequence in any superhero film, ever. Some go as far as saying that it's possibly the greatest action scene in any film period, and it doesn't sound like hyperbole. It was the guy from Forbes, I believe, who addressed the possibility that the scene was being over hyped. Whoever it was, went on to say that "[It can't be overhyped. You'll just have to see it to believe that.]" The same people are saying the scene is worth the price of admission alone, and calling this anything between the greatest superhero movie since The Dark Knight, to something that fits deservedly in Marvel's top 3. Being the action junky I am, it may go down as my favorite MCU film when it releases.
I also watched Collider videos interview with the Russos, where they went into further detail about how they constructed the airport sequence. Apparently, they constructed that sequence as though it was its own film unto itself. They gave each character an arc within the scene. In general, they were able to raise the bar on the film's action because they reached out to the guys who did John Wick; famous action choreographers turned directors. The guys knocked it out of the park on every scene they advised the Russos on (according to the Russos), so the brothers kept asking them for more and more input.
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Post by mr. excellent on Apr 23, 2016 12:29:05 GMT -5
Watching The First Avenger right now and came across this gem of a line: “Get your ass up out of that dirt and stand in that line up at attention until somebody comes and tells you what to do.” –Colonel Phillips (Tommy Lee Jones) Lots of thoughts as I pull myself up off the floor from the week’s responsibilities. Recently I’ve caught myself finding old threads for nostalgia sake. Today I was perusing our first Captain America thread. It’s pretty funny, the way we’ve been talking about these Marvel movies. Cap was the 4th Marvel Studios film, and yet I’d talk about the studio as though it had 1000 movies under its belt. “Cap is easily the 2nd best Marvel Studios film ever!” Ha ha. One of us made a comment on how First Class managed to be the best Marvel film of 2011, a rare but good non-Marvel Studios film about Marvel characters. I remember agreeing with the sentiment too. It’s just funny how after Incredible Hulk, Marvel Studios had cemented itself in the minds of many (myself included) as this thing that “always was”, even though Marvel had that pre-golden age era of success. I mean, it was X-Men and Spider-man that started it all (and Blade to a far lesser extent). Even now, I realize 8 years isn’t that long. They’ve only made what, thirteen movies? Civil War now has over 30 something reviews, still only 1 negative, with many calling it Marvel’s best yet. A few even calling it the best superhero movie yet. If it’s on par with Winter Soldier, I’d definitely say it’s the greatest superhero trilogy thus far. Iron Man could’ve had that, had they gone for purer IM stories, but what are you going to do? RDJ is still the most rewarded of all the actors to star in Marvel Studios films.
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Post by BackinBlack on Apr 23, 2016 13:02:32 GMT -5
I'm doing a Cap marathon for build-up. First Avenger, Avengers, Winter Soldier, and Age of Ultron.
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Post by Webber3000 on Apr 23, 2016 14:57:36 GMT -5
Let us know what you think after rewatching!
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Post by BackinBlack on Apr 23, 2016 16:57:54 GMT -5
Let us know what you think after rewatching! Well I'm up to the Chitauri Invasion in Avengers right now, but this is the first time I've watched First Avenger in awhile. One thing I think worth mentioning is how with the solo Phase One movies, I felt like they wanted to build a sense of realism, like how they made Cap's suit look like something a soldier would actually wear, while still paying tribute to his classic suit during his 'USO' shows. Besides that, while we all knew things were building up to Avengers, they still felt like their own movies too. Since after Avengers, you can tell they started to embrace the comics a lot more, not to mention the references to other characters in the solo movies as well as more build-up for future films. Nowadays, it doesn't feel like we're getting solo movies anymore, but just the next chapters of the larger universe. Falcon in Ant-Man, all the heroes in Civil War, Stark in Spider-Man, Hulk in Ragnarok. It's a double edged sword. It's nice to show such connectivity, but it's also nice to keep things in their own bubble sometimes. I guess it's a reason to appreciate the Phase One films a little more. EDIT: But there is Doctor Strange coming, which from what I could tell from the trailer will probably stand alone, even if there is more Infinity Stone build-up.
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Post by BackinBlack on Apr 23, 2016 20:17:47 GMT -5
Just finished Winter Soldier. Saving Age of Ultron for later so I can watch Spaceballs tonight. Anyway, I still think it has the best action of all the MCU movies. Watching it this time around, a thought I had would be who would win in a fight between Evans' Cap and Affleck's Batman. I remember when the Russos were first announced to direct, I was worried. I mean, these were the guys who directed "You, Me, and Dupree." Now they're at the helm for the Infinity War. Crazy, right?
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Post by mr. excellent on Apr 23, 2016 21:29:16 GMT -5
Good question. You know how these discussions tend to go. With preparation, Batman always wins. I'm gonna have to go with Cap on this one though. Civil War will make him even more of a badass. It'll be an interesting question to revisit after Affleck gets a few more movies in.
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Post by brotherandbassist on May 5, 2016 23:33:12 GMT -5
Spoiler free review: Spider-Man kinda sounds like Michael J. Fox, especially when he says a certain profanity laced line(you'll see what I mean when you watch I) The entire movie is pretty epic The plot twist will blow you away
9.5/10
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Post by mr. excellent on May 6, 2016 1:44:36 GMT -5
Just got back. Totally agree. I can barely think straight right now, so this write up is going to be all over the place. Nothing has sold me more on future Marvel movies than this movie did here. It’s a very good movie in and of itself, but you will be chomping at the bit to see more Black Panther. Ant Man is better in this movie than he was in his own film. Spider-man was done sooo much justice, that for me, it really did prove impossible to be overhyped. I swear to God, the hype meter broke in my brain, and somehow the enjoyment level of Spider-man being in the movie did not disappoint. I want to know what’s next for Steve Rogers and Sam Wilson and Tony. Then there’s Natasha, whose Black Widow is the most badass we have ever seen. For my money, I actually think she had the best fight choreography in the entire movie. Cap, Bucky, and especially Black Panther do some crazy shit for sure, but Natasha was taken to the next level. Don’t even get me started about the adventures we could have with Vision and Scarlett Witch. This movie isn’t perfect, and the buildup is a little slow. Slow build ups are fine, but I think certain things could’ve been given more weight since they delegated much of the humor until the latter half of the film. That being said, there’s some good zingers in there early on too. Regardless, this is among Marvel’s finest films. I’d have to say Winter Soldier and Iron Man are tighter stories, but neither can deliver the payoff this movie does. I loved Andrew and Emma, but Holland is the perfect successor. There’s a scene where Tony goes to Queen’s. I knew it was coming, but when the “Queen’s” title card popped up on screen I couldn’t control my face. Dorky smile from ear to ear, mouth wide open like a (excuse the expression) derpy dog. Every moment of Tom Holland being on screen was fantastic, and that end credits scene with the Spider signal? I never imagined I’d be seeing the words “Spider-man will return soon” at the end credits. I actually let out an audible whoop for that shit which got few people in the theater to chuckle. This movie made me want to watch the shit out of Spider-man again, and I thought I’d cooled off from wanting to see Spider-man movies. Sooo much to gush about. First and foremost is the personality, which they nailed. He’s hilariously dorky, talking way too much and giving us a view into what it must be like to interact amongst these enhanced people. Second for me was the way they implied Peter’s intelligence. He works on an early 90’s desktop and basically dumpster dives for old retro shit to make new. Peter is responsible for the creation of his own webbing too! Third for me was a three way tie between spider strength, speed, and durability. Peter gets hit so hard multiple times, yet he gets up and keeps going. We see Winter Soldier punching through metal doors, yet Spider-man deflects his mechanical fist as though it’s made of plastic. He stops a 3000lb car going 40mph and sets it down gently. Taking on Winter Soldier and Falcon at the same time was so freakin’ awesome to watch. Of all the Marvel heroes, he’s clearly got them beat on these 3 things. Especially because it’s obvious that Peter is so new to his powers, and it’s established early on that Sam Wilson is 5 times the badass he was in Winter Soldier. Good lord, I’m turned up right now
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