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Post by BackinBlack on Oct 23, 2015 11:43:14 GMT -5
They're really amping things up after Daredevil, this time including actual superpowers. And much like Kingpin, I just known Tennant's gonna steal the show as Purple Man.
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Post by mr. excellent on Oct 23, 2015 12:52:58 GMT -5
For sure, this looks crazy.
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Post by mr. excellent on Nov 20, 2015 13:34:45 GMT -5
I cannot wait to watch Jessica Jones tonight (or tomorrow)!
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Post by Webber3000 on Nov 21, 2015 18:23:51 GMT -5
How'd you like it?
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Post by mr. excellent on Nov 22, 2015 17:07:27 GMT -5
So far, I love it. I finished episode 5. Like I suspected with Daredevil, I can see this show getting some awards recognition. While I'm not surprised that Daredevil didn't get the accolades or nods I thought it might receive, I'd be really surprised if this didn't. Marvel Netflix continues to be the premiere Marvel live action content to go for super powered drama. The super heroics are there for sure, but once the show grabs hold of you it doesn't let go. Some reviews have said this isn't the type of show you can binge through, which may be true for some. In my case, it was circumstance that has prevented me from plowing through it.
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Post by BackinBlack on Nov 22, 2015 18:52:29 GMT -5
As of last night, I'm through episode four. I give it props for adding more fuel to the Civil War fire, and man I did not see that ending coming.
I know you guys aren't big Power Rangers fans, but I thought I'd point out that both Daredevil and Jessica have a former Ranger as a cast member. Vladimir from Daredevil was the Rhino Jungle Fury Ranger and Malcolm from Jessica was the Red RPM Ranger. Makes me wonder if other former Rangers will appear in these Netflix series.
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Post by mr. excellent on Nov 22, 2015 22:50:35 GMT -5
I did see that Malcolm was a Power Ranger. I've never watched power rangers, though I did grow up with the show. The thing about this show that makes it so powerful is that it's not a super hero show. Not really. Feige has claimed for years now that their movies try to tackle other genres or blend other genres in, but at the end of the day there's always more of their formula in the movie than anything else. Their best outings in recent years have been those where the other genre was allowed to shine through less hindered. I'm talking about Winter Soldier's political thriller and Guardian's space adventure. Then Daredevil came out, which felt the least restricted of all their material, now there's this. More than anything Marvel has produced before it, this is not a super hero show. It's a show about the fallout from trauma, recovery and addiction. For those reasons, I think it's also Marvel's strongest work.
All that said, do I think super hero stuff is an implicit weakness? No. Rather, Marvel's formula has gotten in the way of its productions really shining, and it seems like going the route of blending other genres into their work has helped them come out of that. Their movies won't go into Netflix territory any time soon if ever, and I'm really enjoying what Marvel on Netflix has had to offer.
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Post by mr. excellent on Nov 29, 2015 1:09:12 GMT -5
Just saw the final episode. I think on the whole, this show is at least as good as Daredevil. Things kept escalating and the conclusion was satisfying. There was one character who kind of got in the way, but never derailed the direction of the show. There was also a surprise cameo appearance from another person in the MCU (by which I'm including MCU tv as well) that turned out to be more than a wave and a smile. Show's awesome!
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Post by BackinBlack on Nov 29, 2015 6:24:08 GMT -5
Just finished it on Wednesday, and you are right about the escalation. It just kept building up that it felt like they wouldn't be able to win the day. Had a similar feeling from Daredevil. Who's the character that got in the way for you? Was it Robyn? Cause I freakin' hated her. Lastly, I think we can all agree on this: David Tennant as Kilgrave is the most terrifying villain in the MCU. He's not interested in power like Loki or has some perverted sense of bettering the world like Fisk. He's a true sociopath who takes joy in using others for his own goals.
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Post by mr. excellent on Nov 29, 2015 18:22:03 GMT -5
No, I actually felt sorry for her. I did hate Jeryn Hogarth. Carrie Ann Moss is great, but her character by design was the second worse person on the show, and that's only because Kilgrave is a sociopath. The person who I felt sort of got in the way was Simpson. He was somewhat useful, but toward the end of the season his involvement started messing things up. Definitely interested in seeing where his story goes though, as it was a loose end. You know who I really enjoyed was Luke Cage. So likable, yet dangerously unstoppable. As always, Marvel continues to cast really well. Maybe better than any other studio on the whole.
I agree about Kilgrave being the most terrifying villain in the MCU. Reason being, Marvel actually played out the "what if's" to their fullest. As in, what if a guy could control minds? What would he make people do? What would that look like? What's the fallout, etc. Sure, Ronin or Red Skull are the most evil in terms of motivations and sheer number of casualties, but MCU films don't actually show you the down and dirty of the atrocities they're responsible for the way this show does.
On a related topic, I was wondering how long it would take before people started to idolize and faun over Kilgrave as people are ought to do with their favorite villains. Heath Ledger's Joker being the biggest current example. It took 1 day. One day. Part of me wants to believe it's because David Tennant is so beloved as The Doctor in Who, and then there's the other part of me that has more cynical ideas that I'd rather not think too much about. Seriously though, this is one of those villains that you don't want people to idolize. Not even for fun, like we do Bane or Venom. That's how bad he is, and that speaks volumes to what Marvel has allowed Jessica Jones to be. Sometimes I feel as though I learn more in watching movies and reading fiction than I do consuming news and textbooks. I know I'm not alone in that, and for that reason I think this is a very important show that needs to be seen. Bravo Melissa Rosenburg.
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Post by mr. excellent on Dec 1, 2015 22:49:31 GMT -5
I have to say, I'm a little surprised at people's reactions to Daredevil now, after having seen Jessica Jones. When DD came out, it was almost universal praise. I actually don't remember any straight out negative reviews. Now that Jessica Jones comes out, there's a lot of "This is way better than Daredevil, not that there was anything wrong with Daredevil..." It's almost as though DD was just "okay" for some people.
I mean, listen, it's totally fine for someone not to love or even like the show, but I remember Daredevil getting high praise. It wasn't a lukewarm reception, and the general consensus was definitely more than "it was okay". I sort of get that when you have new context it changes the way you feel about other things, but I'm feeling kind of bad for DD right now.
The after shows I've listened to thus far have been from Source Fed, ThinkGeek, and Collider movie talk. Some of them share panelists, but they're still separate review shows on Youtube.
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Post by BackinBlack on Jan 4, 2016 17:59:05 GMT -5
Season Two or Daredevil is supposed to debut March 25 (sly move, Marvel).
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Post by mr. excellent on Jan 4, 2016 18:56:16 GMT -5
Yeah. I don't see if having an impact on BvS in the long term or short term though.
On a different topic, I've been watching Jessica Jones again. I'm starting to notice subtle pieces of character development sprinkled in here and there. Jessica doesn't like riding in cars, for example. There was a lot of little things throw into Daredevil as well. It's a nice touch and adds value to repeat viewings.
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Post by BackinBlack on Jan 7, 2016 19:10:09 GMT -5
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Post by BackinBlack on Feb 15, 2016 9:17:46 GMT -5
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