Marvel Netflix Series

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Luke Cage Main Trailer:


This looks excellent.

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Gonna start episode 7 at some point tonight. It has been very good so far. End of ep.6 felt like it could've been a finale if Luke Cage was a mini-series. It's not as adult as I thought it was going to be, but that's not a bad thing. On the other hand, it's tackling a lot of issues head on. There's this awesome sense of optimism and hope to it. It sends a great message to the community at large about people bonding together, doing what's right for younger generations to build off of. My wife and I love it. While it didn't knock me off my feet the way season 1 Daredevil did, I think overall it's pretty dang close, and in some ways better. Each show has its strength. What do you all think so far?

[BackinBlack]

First off, just finished Luke Cage last night. Really awesome and really intense. In a way, it's the most down to earth of all the Netflix series.

Second, new teaser for Iron Fist, which will be out in March.


And finally, Sigourney Weaver has been cast as the villain for Defenders.
tvline.com/2016/10/08/marvels-the-defenders-sigourney-weaver-cast-netflix/

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Iron Fist looks good. The Sigourney Weaver reveal is great. I finished Luke Cage a couple days ago myself. Overall, I think it's a very strong show. I was a little disappointed in it because I let me expectations go a little too high. That said, it does the best world building of anything MCU thus far. The idea that Marvel's Netflix characters may never make it to the silver screen is frustrating. Thus far, these shows have been better than the movies, by my estimation. The least they could do is give them some love in Marvel Short's, released before the movie a la Pixar. I know this conversation has happened on some thread here at the proboards. What better movie to put a Defenders' related short in front of than next Year's Spider-man: Homecoming? While the cross over audience has to be some really high percentage, I still think these Netflix shows reach people who don't typically go to the movies for superhero fare. Self contained, short films could do something to boost ticket sales... Not that they're having a problem at the box office. Just a thought though.

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[brotherandbassist]

Looks dope, I can't wait! Oh wait, I don't have Netflix..... *sheds single tear* Like dis if u cry errytime

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So I finished Iron Fist yesterday. All in all, I liked it. I actually enjoyed this a lot more than the critics did. Good action, great villains, fun cross overs and a likable protagonist. Danny is a lot less mature than our other Defenders, including the emotionally damaged Jessica Jones. However, it didn't reduce the entertainment value for me. I definitely recommend it. I mean, the drama on Marvel's Netflix shows are still way better than a lot of the stuff you see on network tv.

[BackinBlack]

I'm 8 episodes in right now. I found it had a slow build up for the first few episodes, not really sucking me in like the first episodes of the other series did. It got better episode by episode, and I feel it's now at the quality I expect from Marvel and Netflix.

[brotherandbassist]

A lot of people complained that he wasn't Asian. Does everything have to become a political correctness issue?! If you go on Rotten Tomatoes, the critic score is 14% and the fan score is in the 80% range. Bias much?

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Charlie Cox on Daredevil Season 3


Charlie Cox said something that kind of irked me. He said something to the effect of "Daredevil can't compete with [the Avengers] because he doesn't have superpowers'. He went on to say that he did play an integral role in the Civil War story in the comics, but the whole super power thing irks me. He does have superpowers, it just doesn't entail super strength, speed, or flight. A guy who can hear so well that he essentially has his own version of sonar vision is a dangerous guy. A guy who can smell things so well, he can detect a person coming from 5 stories below is a dangerous man. A guy who can zero in on someone's heart beat in a room full of other people is a dangerous man. I mean, seriously, what's up with this? Black Widow and Jeremy Renner get to be on the Avengers, and I'm certain Daredevil could go toe to toe with both of them. One of the Avengers' films weakest aspects in terms of writing (IMO) is the way that they convey Black Widow and Jeremy Renner as the 'regular' people. The movies get the point across, and yet they simultaneously have to show how much of a badass these characters are, so you pretty much don't pay attention to the fact that they don't have super powers. They're trying to pull that whole DC angle, that the superheroes are like the gods among us, and yet they're so humanized that that angle gets lost. Even with Thor.

The only reason the Defenders aren't in the movies is because the tv and movie division are separate. That's another gripe. Anthony Mackie said they were in different universes or some noise. He clearly misspoke, because that's straight up nonsense. Marvel's main point in their marketing for a couple years was "It's All Connected". There's definitely barriers to that connectivity and actors being able to show up on tv, but their ABC and Netflix stuff IS all one universe. The Avengers is the foundation for Kingpin's rise to dominance. There's a whole episode in Jessica Jones that's the result of the Avengers. Hammer Industries created the bullets that were used to put Luke Cage on ice. SHIELD has a tie in for every MCU film that comes out. Yes, it's frustrating that Marvel's divisions can't seem to play nice with each other, but it's still the same sandbox doggone it. I wish Marvel would quit pretending it isn't, because it's a complete 180 on what got them the opportunity to do all of these shows in the first place.

[BackinBlack]

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This looks so cool. I so want to see a Daredevil vs. Iron Fist showdown. Their reason for fighting can be as trivial as Daredevil cutting in line, but I still want to see it. There was some talk about the production schedule leaving little time for the Iron Fist actors to learn their choreography, so ironically, the fight scenes for Marvel Netflix's best martial artist weren't as enthralling as Daredevil's. Still though, Rand is supposed to be the best fighter, so make it happen.

[brotherandbassist]

Daredevil is definitely a real superhero. By that logic, then neither is Batman or Iron Man. Neither of them have "super powers", except Daredevil actually does. He has enhanced senses, how's that not a power?! That's extremely useful. That sounds about as stupid as this video I watched about the "ten most useless super powers" and one of them was spider sense. Are you kidding me? So the ability to know a car is about to lunge at your head so you can flip out of the way isn't useful at all?

[BackinBlack]

Well, I guess I'll get the conversation rolling on the Defenders. My expectations were a little high, but I was satisfied with the final product. They did a good job at making it feel like the shows, not just the characters were coming together; the interaction between the four, whether they were talking or fighting together, were the best parts. That said though, much like his own series, Iron Fist is the weak chain for me. As for the Hand, only Alexandra and Gao were really worth anything to me. Personally, I kind of hope they put the Hand to rest now; as I've noticed, the seasons where the Hand were involved tend to be the less well received.

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I agree with you about The Hand. The ninjas just became less and less cool to me as time went on. Sigourney Weaver was great as Alexandra, but the character in the end turned out to be a mild disappointment. I feel the same about the Black Sky. I feel like they were going for weird, and then stopped just short of it. Was it budgetary stuff? I don't know, but it was a little anti-climactic for me. I do agree with you on the positives you mentioned though. As far as Iron Fist goes, I really do think they need to step him up a bit. Daredevil is a bad ass, he should be the best fighter in Netflix's corner of the MCU... outside of Iron Fist. Step it up Finn Jones, they had the same choreographer for Defenders as they did for Daredevil season 2. His excuse for the choreography in Iron Fist is completely invalid now. Maybe Charlie Cox is something of a badass so they can do more with his scenes, I don't know.